Thread: Test non-responder?

sounds like bunk gear, 250mg test cyp EOD should have you gaining pretty well... What lab is it?

I am running
250mg test C EOD
100mg Masteron EOD
250mg eq E3D

dude if your not gaining with that, its bunk gear i mean
5 weeks of 750mg of test c 300mg mast and 500 eq
and what 2lbs to show for i say its bunk

Just contacted the person who sold me.

I told them I had no gains, lost definition (put on fats, since I upped my cals)
No force gains, no libido increse no pump increse etc.

He told me my diet was wrong:

Here`s my diet and I told him

between 5-6 meals per day,
220gr of chicken, pork or steak with 2 cups of rice
or
between 60 & 100gr of oatmeal with a banana and 10-20 egg whites
add to that 2 shakes (before & after workout) or 2 protein bars during the 6 hours I work since I really can`t eat.

The person went on saying I couldn`t possibly absorb 20 egg whites and that was too much then he told me he had to go to the cinema and hung up LOL

Originally Posted by Digitalash

sounds like bunk gear, 250mg test cyp EOD should have you gaining pretty well... What lab is it?

Innovagen (canada UGL brand)

is also tried Life Sciences with the same stack and switched after 5 weeks (of no gains like this) to my current brand.

Originally Posted by ItsAParadox

Just contacted the person who sold me.

I told them I had no gains, lost definition (put on fats, since I upped my cals)
No force gains, no libido increse no pump increse etc.

He told me my diet was wrong:

Here`s my diet and I told him

between 5-6 meals per day,
220gr of chicken, pork or steak with 2 cups of rice
or
between 60 & 100gr of oatmeal with a banana and 10-20 egg whites
add to that 2 shakes (before & after workout) or 2 protein bars during the 6 hours I work since I really can`t eat.

The person went on saying I couldn`t possibly absorb 20 egg whites and that was too much then he told me he had to go to the cinema and hung up LOL

It's sounds like bunk gear. I would give it at most two more weeks and if nothing happens ditch that shit.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

It's sounds like bunk gear. I would give it at most two more weeks and if nothing happens ditch that shit.

Thanks a lot, that will give me time to save some money and contact another source (I'll go back to my first source since it was working last summer, 10 weeks of tren got me a good recomp 10 pounds up 15 pounds of fat loss)

Glad I only bought half the stack this time... (remember it's a local source)

Hate to see somebody get bunk gear, and that's what this looks like. I've gotten bunk gear before and I just about lost my marbles.

Def sounds like bunk gear. I don't think its possible to be a non responder, is it? If that was the case it seems like your body wouldn't respond to its own natty test and in that case your body wouldn't function as a regular male in the first place.

with that much gear you could eat anything and add 20lbs

Originally Posted by ItsAParadox

Just contacted the person who sold me.

I told them I had no gains, lost definition (put on fats, since I upped my cals)
No force gains, no libido increse no pump increse etc.

He told me my diet was wrong:

Here`s my diet and I told him

between 5-6 meals per day,
220gr of chicken, pork or steak with 2 cups of rice
or
between 60 & 100gr of oatmeal with a banana and 10-20 egg whites
add to that 2 shakes (before & after workout) or 2 protein bars during the 6 hours I work since I really can`t eat.

The person went on saying I couldn`t possibly absorb 20 egg whites and that was too much then he told me he had to go to the cinema and hung up LOL

There is no such thing as a test non-responder...it isn't creatine for God's sake!


Sounds like you got scammed again. Go to your doc and order a hormone panel to truly see where your test levels are. In the future, I would recommend going with a board sponsor and not some cinema-going douchebag.

Originally Posted by GMO

There is no such thing as a test non-responder...it isn't creatine for God's sake!


Sounds like you got scammed again. Go to your doc and order a hormone panel to truly see where your test levels are. In the future, I would recommend going with a board sponsor and not some cinema-going douchebag.

Hahaha thanks! And you made me laugh after a bad day!

There is no such thing as a test non-responder...it isn't creatine for God's sake!

but... very true
on a side note i been there before with biogen so i know its not fun huge waste of time and money
better luck next time bro

I would have gone to the cinema and made a scene in front of his old lady.

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

I would have gone to the cinema and made a scene in front of his old lady.

i second this motion

Or better yet, Take the vials and a syringe to movies and sit directly behind them. Load the syringe up and shoot the worthless oil all over the back of their hair and clothes.

Lol he just told me it's because I was eating too much that I didn't grew up (I don't believe it is possible to over eat while bulking) anyway he went on saying I wasn't eating proper than gave me a diet which consist of 3 meals a day 200gr meat (steak, chicken, pork) with one cup of rice and 2 shakes with 2 fruits.

Like I said I am eating between 5-6 meals consisting of 220gr of meat (chicken, steak, pork) and 2 cups of rice or 60-100gr of oatmeal and 10-20 egg whites with 2 shakes or 2 protein bars (if I`m working because I can`t eat while working)

Now enjoy and laugh you ass off!

Whenever I see these thread I need to address the most important issue,

how is your diet???

hey if you are talking about life sciences at CM you should post up your problem At that website too, some times the sponsors dont really care till you post up a bad review,

Originally Posted by TwisT

Whenever I see these thread I need to address the most important issue,

how is your diet???

Like I said, between 5 and 6 meals per day, everyday.

Meals ALWAYS consist of:

220gr meat (chicken, steak, pork)
2 cups of rice

OR

60-100gr of oatmeal
10-20 egg whites

+

2 shakes of protein (2 scoop each) (pre & post workout)
OR
2 protein bars in the 6 hours I am working since I can't eat during those 6 hours (working 3 times a week)

Training wise:
training 4 times a week for more than 8 years (3 years seriously)
between 8 & 10 reps as heavy as possible, good form, complete ROM

quads/hams
detls/tris
back/calves
chests/bis

fit in 2 ab session consisting of
suspended leg raises
pulley crunch on a ball
ball pull with knees

training was given to me by 2nd place mr canada (he was a couple of years ago)
my diet was overseen by him and he told me since I am wayyy of season and nowhere near my contest and I don't old much fat it would be sufficent FOR NOW

Originally Posted by Imosted

hey if you are talking about life sciences at CM you should post up your problem At that website too, some times the sponsors dont really care till you post up a bad review,

it's from a local reseller... It has bad rep around here but I didn't know what the guys' lab we're so when he brought it to me and I researched it I was fucked. Both people who sold me gear were "supposed" good friends (knew them for 2-3 years had done some other things with them but, I think I got scammed over that thing...)

Even if your diet was a bit shitty/lacking cals the gear would at least have recomped you a bit by now.

It must be either bunk or under-dosed. Sorry bro.

Originally Posted by Hench

Even if your diet was a bit shitty/lacking cals the gear would at least have recomped you a bit by now.

It must be either bunk or under-dosed. Sorry bro.

That`s what I though, and like I said it might not be premium pre-comp diet but rice and meat isn`t that bad either and I eat plenty trust me, plus like I said the person told me I wasn`t eating enough and when I shower him what I was eating he told me I was eating too much...

P.S. just look at my previous post for my diet

Originally Posted by bjjallseeneye

i second this motion

I third the motion .... FUCKING SCUMBAG... be well , dude.

what a minute.....your first cycle was Tren???

Yeah it was Tren lol

Originally Posted by ItsAParadox

Yeah it was Tren lol

Nice, how did that work out for you?

I'm never gonna do Canadian gear, eh!?