Thread: Dbol bridge?

The best choices for bridging are proviron, its not methylated so no liver stress and acts like viagra by freeing up testosterone. Other than that low dose primo depot(not oral) and var have minimal impact on hpta.

Originally Posted by msumuscle

This is the cycle I'm just finishing up
EQ weeks 1-12 600 mgs/wk
Test E weeks 1-10 500 mgs/wk
Test P weeks 10-15 100mgs/EOD
Tren A weeks 7-15 75 mgs EOD
Arimidex .5 mgs ED

This was my second cycle and I'm just turning 21 years old. I regret using the tren in only my second cycle because I had a lot of sides which included tren dick, no libido, and high anxiety. My PCT will be Prami, Arimidex and Clomid. I'm afraid after this heavy cycle I'm going to lose too much of my gains and my rugby season starts soon. I was thinking Dbol at 10mgs every morning for 8 weeks and running my PCT for 8 weeks right along with it. I know a lot of people are against it but most people say it helps you to slowly restore natural test while lowering cortisone and keeping gains. It does minimally suppress HPTA though. Does anyone have any suggestions? Keep it or throw it out?

Dianabol is suppressive, and you can't run it with PCT. There is no need for you to do a d-bol bridge. Run your PCT like normal, and I hope you used HCG on cycle. If not, you better blast it 2500iu eod while your test clears. You are too young to cycle anyway, much less use Tren. I hope you didn't do any permanent damage to yourself.

Originally Posted by GMO

Dianabol is suppressive, and you can't run it with PCT. There is no need for you to do a d-bol bridge. Run your PCT like normal, and I hope you used HCG on cycle. If not, you better blast it 2500iu eod while your test clears. You are too young to cycle anyway, much less use Tren. I hope you didn't do any permanent damage to yourself.

I used HCG the last three weeks at 1500 IU's EOD

I stopped it 6 days before my PCT, which was 4 days ago.

Originally Posted by Justinbro

The best choices for bridging are proviron, its not methylated so no liver stress and acts like viagra by freeing up testosterone. Other than that low dose primo depot(not oral) and var have minimal impact on hpta.

Almost everything in that statment needs to really be re-evaluated by you.

Not your best post Bro.

You could do the AM dbol and recover, but it should only be used for a failed PCT, not to start one.

You already said you regret using the tren, so just chalk this cycle up to an experience that was bad and move on from this point forward.

Originally Posted by CT

Almost everything in that statment needs to really be re-evaluated by you.

Not your best post Bro.

Decided I will not be using any bridge whatsoever. I regret even using gear at such a young age. I plan on running normal PCT and hoping my test levels come back to normal. I have made an appointment with an endocrinologist after my PCT to see if I've made a good recovery. I plan on leaving steroids alone for a very long time after this.

What GMO said earlier scared the hell out of me and that's what I needed to realize I need to stop what I've been doing. I can only hope I haven't caused permanent damage to myself.

bridging is not a good idea. your body only produces 5 - 15 mg of testosterone a day. Add 10 mg of dbol to that and your body will notice and adjust the amount it produces. After a cycle when you're barely producing a mg a day, adding dbol will just keep it down.

if you want to keep gains and lower cortisol off cycle, give IGF-1 a try. I've heard it works well for some people and does not interfere with the HPTA. In fact it may have a small contribution towards getting your testes back on track.

Originally Posted by msumuscle

What GMO said earlier scared the hell out of me and that's what I needed to realize I need to stop what I've been doing. I can only hope I haven't caused permanent damage to myself.

I hope you mean that bro...I'm in my 40's and when I was 28 I went on for the first time and went 4 years straight with no break. Not smart but hey I wouldn't listen.....When i finally stopped I had shut down my Test Production forever. Finally after years of depression I got tested and my Test level was 118......hows that for no production now it's test every other week just to be normal.

Originally Posted by 280tommorow

I hope you mean that bro...I'm in my 40's and when I was 28 I went on for the first time and went 4 years straight with no break. Not smart but hey I wouldn't listen.....When i finally stopped I had shut down my Test Production forever. Finally after years of depression I got tested and my Test level was 118......hows that for no production now it's test every other week just to be normal.

I'm really sorry to hear that man. That's the problem I had, I didn't care what anybody told me. Now I realize why people were warning me about what I was doing. I just hope it's not too late for me. I really dont want to have to go on TRT but if that's what it comes to I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

Originally Posted by msumuscle

I'm really sorry to hear that man. That's the problem I had, I didn't care what anybody told me. Now I realize why people were warning me about what I was doing. I just hope it's not too late for me. I really dont want to have to go on TRT but if that's what it comes to I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

Good luck dude.

Hope you recover very well.

Otherwise, my advise is telling your endo of what's you've been on. I understand it's a mess doing that, but it's the rest of your life what you're risking. With ALL the info the endo can help you properly.

Peace.

Originally Posted by chemari

Good luck dude.

Hope you recover very well.

Otherwise, my advise is telling your endo of what's you've been on. I understand it's a mess doing that, but it's the rest of your life what you're risking. With ALL the info the endo can help you properly.

Peace.

I actually have an appointment with an endo tomorrow and I plan on telling him everything that I've done. The only thing I'm questioning is should I wait to see him after I run PCT? I'm starting PCT on Thursday but I'm just so worried so I decided to see him right away. What would your advice on that be?

Originally Posted by msumuscle

I'm really sorry to hear that man. That's the problem I had, I didn't care what anybody told me. Now I realize why people were warning me about what I was doing. I just hope it's not too late for me. I really dont want to have to go on TRT but if that's what it comes to I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

Highly doubtful.

You're still very young, but your recovery might take a little longer seeing that you were using tren, which can shut you down VERY hard.

Just run the PCT for 6 weeks, 4-6 weeks after stopping go get bloodwork done. That is the ONLY way to know if you've recovered. Another way to know if you're recovering is morning wood. Seriously. It will let you know your body is producing and releasing testosterone, which most of is released in the eary AM thus the name morning wood.

Next time, LISTEN, but I think you know this already.

Originally Posted by msumuscle

I actually have an appointment with an endo tomorrow and I plan on telling him everything that I've done. The only thing I'm questioning is should I wait to see him after I run PCT? I'm starting PCT on Thursday but I'm just so worried so I decided to see him right away. What would your advice on that be?

You're jumping the gun before you've even tried to attempt a PCT. Cancel the appointment and run the PCT.

Just remember, ANYTHING you disclose to a Dr. can be obtained by anyone once you sign a HIPPA release form. You might forget about it over time but one day if you apply for health insurance or life insurance, they can pull your records and deny you coverage or rate your a$$ through the roof.

THINK.

Originally Posted by ct

highly doubtful.

You're still very young, but your recovery might take a little longer seeing that you were using tren, which can shut you down very hard.

Just run the pct for 6 weeks, 4-6 weeks after stopping go get bloodwork done. That is the only way to know if you've recovered. Another way to know if you're recovering is morning wood. Seriously. It will let you know your body is prooducing and releasing testosterone, which most of is released in the eary am thus the name morning wood.

Next time, listen, but i think you know this already.

+1

Just called my doctor and told him I would not be coming in tomorrow. I will run my PCT for six weeks and see how I feel after that. I will get bloodwork done to see if I have recovered when the time comes. Thank you everyone for the good advice and I appreciate you guys actually taking the time to help me instead of telling me I'm an idiot for running gear at such a young age. Love this forum.

I'm going back to school in a few weeks and lately because of the tren I've had some pretty bad ED. Along with the clomid, Arimidex, and prami for my PCT could I throw in a little cialis just to help me get it up or is that just overdoing it?

Originally Posted by msumuscle

I'm going back to school in a few weeks and lately because of the tren I've had some pretty bad ED. Along with the clomid, Arimidex, and prami for my PCT could I throw in a little cialis just to help me get it up or is that just overdoing it?

No by all means USE IT.

Good luck Bro, let us know how everything turns out. What is your idea for the PCT? Meaning what are you going to run and at what dose for the six weeks?

Originally Posted by CT

You're jumping the gun before you've even tried to attempt a PCT. Cancel the appointment and run the PCT.

Just remember, ANYTHING you disclose to a Dr. can be obtained by anyone once you sign a HIPPA release form. You might forget about it over time but one day if you apply for health insurance or life insurance, they can pull your records and deny you coverage or rate your a$$ through the roof.

THINK.

Good advice IMHO. I'm not US citizen so I didn't realize about health insurance.

So good advices in this thread, for everyone.

Peace.

Originally Posted by CT

No by all means USE IT.

Good luck Bro, let us know how everything turns out. What is your idea for the PCT? Meaning what are you going to run and at what dose for the six weeks?

I plan on running clomid 300 mgs the first day, 100 mgs for two weeks, then 500 mgs for 4 weeks. Arimidex at .25 mgs ED. Prami at .25 mgs ED before bed because of the sides and maybe 15mgs of cialis when I bring a girl home! I'm running PCT a little longer because this was a decently heavy cycle and I want to make the best recovery possible

Yeah i forgot to mention in my first post to you that I thought that was quite the cycle for a guy who was running only his second cycle. My first cycle was just 1 anadrol a day for 50 days (cause thats all I had). Then my next was just 3 dbol a day for 8 weeks before I was brave (or stupid) enough to try injecting. I know what a great first 2 cycles huh?? I couldn't have picked anything milder but hey back then you were lucky to get anything at all......not like today....and PCT'S were unheard of it was cycle cycle cycle

Originally Posted by 280tommorow

Yeah i forgot to mention in my first post to you that I thought that was quite the cycle for a guy who was running only his second cycle. My first cycle was just 1 anadrol a day for 50 days (cause thats all I had). Then my next was just 3 dbol a day for 8 weeks before I was brave (or stupid) enough to try injecting. I know what a great first 2 cycles huh?? I couldn't have picked anything milder but hey back then you were lucky to get anything at all......not like today....and PCT'S were unheard of it was cycle cycle cycle

I know man its crazy. I was looking at some of the cycles the pro bb'ers would run during Arnolds time and they were unbelievable!

Originally Posted by msumuscle

I plan on running clomid 300 mgs the first day, 100 mgs for two weeks, then 500 mgs for 4 weeks. Arimidex at .25 mgs ED. Prami at .25 mgs ED before bed because of the sides and maybe 15mgs of cialis when I bring a girl home! I'm running PCT a little longer because this was a decently heavy cycle and I want to make the best recovery possible

You should do well with that. I'm assuming that the 500mg is a typo?

You can use the prami at .15-.20 for the first couple of weeks and then drop it, the tren is a short ester and will pass through the body very quick.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Originally Posted by CT

You should do well with that. I'm assuming that the 500mg is a typo?

You can use the prami at .15-.20 for the first couple of weeks and then drop it, the tren is a short ester and will pass through the body very quick.

Good luck and keep us posted.

LOL yessir it is, I meant to put 50 mgs. Any certain cialis you'd recommend? I hear Chems is pretty legit.