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    best replacement for 1-T?

    looking to start my 2nd cycle. Took PPs 1-T last fall, loved it. Now that the company has moved on from it i find myself looking for a replacement...

    Ive read up on a few products.

    Andromass - inconsistent reviews i've found. most are gaining but have found some with side effects or just a cycle they didn't enjoy. (a lot more powerful than the 1-T i took from my understanding)

    Finaflex 1-Andro - the dosage sounds very good from what i know, id like to stack with about 50mg of DHEA tho to create 1-t basically lol. does that make sense, would it be beneficial?

    1-AD - to be honest I just don't get a feeling that this alone will do much. have to stack with another product to get solid results.

    due to the number of different andro ingredients that i've been trying to understand it still leaves me a bit confused.

    Help on which andro product would be best? im a little anal about side effects as well which is why i liked how 1-T added the DHEA

    (20yrs old at 6'1 195...college athlete looking to be an athletic 205)

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    Geneza's 1-t cyp

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    ha ha ha...very helpful
    Last edited by lemonade; 08-12-2011 at 03:03 AM.

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    5aOHP FTW!

    1DHEA stacked with 4DHEA is my next planned cycle.

    I believe AMS is close to releasing a new andro lineup to compete with PP new androseries

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    metha drol or Super dmz will put you on ur ass man

    strongest PHs on the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by judojosh View Post
    5aOHP FTW!

    1DHEA stacked with 4DHEA is my next planned cycle.

    I believe AMS is close to releasing a new andro lineup to compete with PP new androseries
    i do like the looks of 5aOHP tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1224 View Post
    metha drol or Super dmz will put you on ur ass man

    strongest PHs on the market
    I was thinking id stick to something more along the lines of the "andro" compounds.. its what I've been researching most and seems to be best for an average user like mysel

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    Also starting to like the thoughts of 1-andro rx and stack something with it to help with lethargy and libido. like how PPs 1-T liqua vade had 112mg 1-androstene-3b-ol 17-one and added 94mg DHEA.

    any ideas what i could stack with 1-andro rx to counter sides like PP did with their 1-T?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1224 View Post
    metha drol or Super dmz will put you on ur ass man

    strongest PHs on the market

    ^^^This...

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    Has anybody seen that he's only 20? Isn't that a little early even for phs?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
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    elaborate please? looking at something legal, was thinking even a simple test booster.

    Stacking Dermacrine was a thought of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Has anybody seen that he's only 20? Isn't that a little early even for phs?
    i turn 21 in 3 months? lol but im not looking for anything seriously harsh here. 1-DHEA is a 2 step conversion so it'd be a fairly mild PH if im not mistaken? the suggestion above for methadrol and super DMZ.. yea little much i feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonade View Post
    elaborate please? looking at something legal, was thinking even a simple test booster.

    Stacking Dermacrine was a thought of mine.

    If minimal health effects is what you're looking for, testosterone is probably the best bet. Plus you'll have better results in the long run and enjoy the cycle alottt more. I'm sure we were all in your shoes at one point and didn't want to pin anything, but after seeing the difference between a solo oral run and a test cycle I would never go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    If minimal health effects is what you're looking for, testosterone is probably the best bet. Plus you'll have better results in the long run and enjoy the cycle alottt more. I'm sure we were all in your shoes at one point and didn't want to pin anything, but after seeing the difference between a solo oral run and a test cycle I would never go back.
    thanks for this helpful and honest post my man. And I know, I have friends who tell me the same thing and have read many forums that say the same as well. Im just not ready to turn to the darkside just yet lol

    So yes, minimal health effects is what im looking for and is why I thought maybe dermacrine would be a good idea to stack with the the 1-andro rx. I still want to see gains tho!!!! in the mirror and scale lol

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    Not really familiar with any of those compounds TBH. But personally if I were gonna shut myself down and have to pct anyway, I'd be going for the most gains possible. Liver toxicity is usually overhyped so I honestly wouldn't concern yourself too much with that. Unless you're running something extremely harsh or for a pretty long period of time damage will be minimal and will be repaired very quickly. Alot of people underestimate what the liver is capable of, I've read a few times that even if someone donates 2/3 of their liver it will grow back to normal size in just a few weeks!

    Of what's easily available superdrol/super dmz are probably the most potent. Sides are supposed to be rough though (especially without a test base...) Go check out the buy/sell/trade section here and find yourself a phera clone. Mass gains are comparable or better than SD, though strength gains not as impressive. Much easier on side effects though, my first "cycle" was phera and I blew up quickk, plus I felt totally fine except for mild lethargy in week 3-4. Stacked with test you probably wouldn't even get that.

    I know that probably wasn't what you were looking for, but give it some thought. If you're gonna be shutdown anyway might as well make sure it's damn worth it
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    metha-drol or Super dmz ''IRON MAG LABS''
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    yea id rather take some real gear than superdrol i think. ill have to do some research on phera by the sounds of it.

    personally, i feel pretty committed to giving 1-andro rx a shot and then am willing to step up from there based on how it goes. anything to suggest to stack with 1-andro rx(2 step conversion to 1-test). a test booster like i asked about is pretty weak i know lol but again, looking for minimal health concerns but looking to gain!


    ( Dermacrine ingredients- DHEA 34mg** 7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) 16mg** Resveratrol (99%) 16mg** Pregnenolone 8mg** Chrysin (99%) 4mg** ) thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonade View Post
    yea id rather take some real gear than superdrol i think. ill have to do some research on phera by the sounds of it.

    personally, i feel pretty committed to giving 1-andro rx a shot and then am willing to step up from there based on how it goes. anything to suggest to stack with 1-andro rx(2 step conversion to 1-test). a test booster like i asked about is pretty weak i know lol but again, looking for minimal health concerns but looking to gain!


    ( Dermacrine ingredients- DHEA 34mg** 7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) 16mg** Resveratrol (99%) 16mg** Pregnenolone 8mg** Chrysin (99%) 4mg** ) thoughts?
    1-andro rx has been discontinued why no superdrol bro your mising out you will be fine just use proper suport sups a pct and you will be getting big quick why go with somthing weak jmo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky1 View Post
    1-andro rx has been discontinued why no superdrol bro your mising out you will be fine just use proper suport sups a pct and you will be getting big quick why go with somthing weak jmo...
    h-drol is banned yet people find it? lol there are ways, like i said i feel superdrol is not what am looking for. id rather take the real shit than superdrol. And this will be my 2nd cycle ever, whats wrong with a 5-week cycle of 1-andro(and add something to help gains and increase libido/lethargy issues)

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    nothing bro just gave you my op... super dmz worked killer for me, (big gains in size strength) if you can find h-drol try that its pretty mild or 1 andro also, good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonade View Post
    h-drol is banned yet people find it? lol there are ways, like i said i feel superdrol is not what am looking for. id rather take the real shit than superdrol. And this will be my 2nd cycle ever, whats wrong with a 5-week cycle of 1-andro(and add something to help gains and increase libido/lethargy issues)
    Superdol is "real shit" as is dbol as is anadrol.

    And as mentioned in regard to health concerns, if you ask any physician or biologist they will tell you that if done correctly, the safest and most efficacious way to administer medication into the human body is though one of several injection methods (iv, subq, im).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chucky1 View Post
    nothing bro just gave you my op... super dmz worked killer for me, (big gains in size strength) if you can find h-drol try that its pretty mild or 1 andro also, good luck
    I know, sorry for coming off rudely. Ive heard exceptional things about superdrol in terms of size gains and strength as well, online and friends. so i don't doubt you at all. the side effects are just pushing me away for now. Id rather take a couple more cycles before I step up to something that powerful

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    Quote Originally Posted by KUVinny View Post
    Superdol is "real shit" as is dbol as is anadrol.

    And as mentioned in regard to health concerns, if you ask any physician or biologist they will tell you that if done correctly, the safest and most efficacious way to administer medication into the human body is though one of several injection methods (iv, subq, im).
    yea by real shit i meant injectables. and yes i agree that injectables is safer than taking something as serious as superdrol. which is why i would inject before taking sueprdrol i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonade View Post
    Also starting to like the thoughts of 1-andro rx and stack something with it to help with lethargy and libido. like how PPs 1-T liqua vade had 112mg 1-androstene-3b-ol 17-one and added 94mg DHEA.

    any ideas what i could stack with 1-andro rx to counter sides like PP did with their 1-T?
    IML's Anabolic Matrix Rx has DHEA in it(15mg per 2 caps). I haven't ran 1-andro but I have ran Anabolic Matrix standalone and it definitely boosted the libido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    If not check into a natural supplement that I really like called substerone by LG Sciences. Take this with PES anabeta and maybe the IronMagLabs Trib or Anabolic Matrix. That is a great natural stack IMO.
    researching now! thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by troubador View Post
    IML's Anabolic Matrix Rx has DHEA in it(15mg per 2 caps). I haven't ran 1-andro but I have ran Anabolic Matrix standalone and it definitely boosted the libido.
    I thought of this as well. Saw it was the suggestion for the 1-andro rx muscle stack by by IML's. Along with one of their PCT products. 15mgs per 3 caps of DHEA is low compared PPs Dermacrine's 34mgs per dose tho? Or is Anabolic Matrix product as whole just a better decision to stack for gains and help with those 2 sides?

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