Thread: First run, nothing crazy

Look really spot on to me.. the only thing i would think about and this is not a big deal is that most test E comes 250 mg per ml so you would have to load 1.2 ml per shot i believe to get 300.. Since all looks good thought i would throw that at you.

I appreciate it. Just trying to use the wheel not reinvent it. Ill take all the constructive criticism available

HCG starting week 2 at 500iu/biweekly and run aromasin every other day 10-12.5mg minimum imo to prevent bloating and any possible estradiol sides.

Pins: glute 1.5" (upper right quadrant), quad 1" (outer side region), delt 1" (side delt, not the front)
23 is the standard size altho 25 works if you warm up the oil and slin pins work if you're lean

make sure to sterilize the top of the vial with alcohol wipes and to have clean hands. sterilize the injection point as well and don't forget to aspirate.

Go ahead and spring for 3 vials and run it for 12 weeks. That'd be my advice. You should run aromasin at 12.5mg ED. I would advise to run it at during PCT alongside the clomid also. If this is your first cycle which it looks like it is, get some nolva and letro just in case you get any signs of gyno. Nothing worse than waiting on a package with sore ass nips.

I think I will get a third to be on the safe side. I am sure a little will stay in the tip and have no plans on aspirating. I'm okay throwing a few dollars away.

I am going to shoot for 10 weeks on the first cycle and I am seeing a difference in mg/ml between Test C and E(unless this is only specific to the website I am looking at). I might lean towards E so I can finish a 10 week and still have a little left over(not accounting for the leftovers in the tip).




----- ml mg(600 per week, twice, spaced evenly)
----- 10 250

wk1 2.4 600
wk2 4.8 1200
wk3 7.2 1800
wk4 9.6 2400
wk5 12 3000
wk6 14.4 3600
wk7 16.8 4200
wk8 19.2 4800
wk9 21.6 5400
wk10 24 6000


if this is right Ill have 6ml(minus the left in the tube amount) left over. Sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by sloppyj

go ahead and spring for 3 vials and run it for 12 weeks. That'd be my advice. You should run aromasin at 12.5mg ed. I would advise to run it at during pct alongside the clomid also. If this is your first cycle which it looks like it is, get some nolva and letro just in case you get any signs of gyno. Nothing worse than waiting on a package with sore ass nips.

+1

Thanks. I won't start until I have everything in my hands. I've read too many threads of people being shit out of luck.

Originally Posted by suprfast

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if this is right Ill have 6ml(minus the left in the tube amount) left over. Sounds good to me.

You're making it too hard! 600mg x 10wks = 6,000mg or 6g. Each 10ml vial 300mg (what your getting) has 3g in it. So theoretically you need 2 10ml's. But in reality you'll be hard pressed to get an even 10ml out of the vial. So either way you need to get 3-10ml vials at 300mg/ml. Since you're getting 3, you might as well run it 12 weeks. Once the 10 weeks flys by you'll be wanting to push it out to 12 weeks anyway. Trust me.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

You're making it too hard! 600mg x 10wks = 6,000mg or 6g. Each 10ml vial 300mg (what your getting) has 3g in it. So theoretically you need 2 10ml's. But in reality you'll be hard pressed to get an even 10ml out of the vial. So either way you need to get 3-10ml vials at 300mg/ml. Since you're getting 3, you might as well run it 12 weeks. Once the 10 weeks flys by you'll be wanting to push it out to 12 weeks anyway. Trust me.

His getting 3x 10ml vials @ 250mg/ml

Originally Posted by Dannie

His getting 3x 10ml vials @ 250mg/ml

Oh I don't know where i came up with that then. Either way, 3 vials is a must! If he's precise he can get 12 weeks out of 3 vials at that dose...maybe

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Oh I don't know where i came up with that then. Either way, 3 vials is a must! If he's precise he can get 12 weeks out of 3 vials at that dose...maybe

I guess ill just go until I run out. 11 weeks would be fine too. Thanks sloppy

Big thanks to sloppy for some good info and from countless threads including the massive FIRST TIME thread by HEAVYIRON. I came up with this following calendar. Any objections? Sorry to be so meticulous. Its in my nature.

Err, is it me, or is that a shitload of unnecessary HCG in your pre-pct? You already spent a good chunk of your HCG on keeping your testicles happy on cycle. I don't think you need to further blast them with 1000iu eod. That's just excessive.

I think heavyiron's post on his first cycle and pct sticky is geared more towards people who completely neglected HCG usage on-cycle. You just used another 2 vials of 5000iu in a 2 week window when I think you can keep it to 1 vial. I like your aromasin protocol but if you want, you can get a blood test and check your e2 levels which'll tell you if you can drop it to 12.5 eod instead of ed. 600mg/week isn't a huge cycle and not everybody has big issues with high e2 levels.

I like the fact that you're following stickies and laying out spreadsheets for your cycle though. It's better to be prepared then to be one of the dumb-asses who jump on dbol and test, then come crying to us cause their tits hurt or they can't get it up after 2 months of being off cycle.

Thanks Pieguy.

You think for the following two weeks 500iu twice a week is adequate then?

The graphs are for me. If i dont have it written down ill forget.

Also is the Aromasin overkill ED? Some of the forum sponsors have it EOD.

Originally Posted by suprfast

Thanks Pieguy.

You think for the following two weeks 500iu twice a week is adequate then?

The graphs are for me. If i dont have it written down ill forget.

Also is the Aromasin overkill ED? Some of the forum sponsors have it EOD.

I don't wanna comment and have vets jump all over me. From what i've read, please don't kill me guys , yes that's fine. Some might even say 250iu bi-weekly is enough on cycle and an increase if you notice any significant testicular atrophy. This doesn't work later when you run orals, deca, tren, mast, etc.

Originally Posted by pieguy

Some might even say 250iu bi-weekly is enough on cycle and an increase if you notice any significant testicular atrophy. This doesn't work later when you run orals, deca, tren, mast, etc.

This is what I am going to try with a mild cycle (600 test, 300 Deca). I will try to remember to let everybody know how it goes.

You have assembled a good thorough cycle plan and with all the advice you should have an enjoyable experience. Only thing I would expand on is the comment about pinning the glute. It was mentioned to pin it "upper right quadrant" which is correct for your right glute. For the left just mirror it (upper left quadrant). My apologies if you already knew this but I did not want to assume anything.

Cheers!

It should be stated as "Upper outer quadrant" to avoid confusion.

I agree that the HCG might be excessive during the 2 week clearance time. I think 1000iu 2x weekly will suffice. Remember if you dose too heavy with the HCG you can desensitize your LH.

making those adjustments for my records. thanks sloppy.

Saw that my Uncle was going to be busy for Labor Day so I decided to make to send him a few dollars. Now I can't wait.

why dont you buy one 10ml of test prop for a good jump start?

Its all on the way. This will be a long week of waiting. Hope to post my pathetic pics when they arrive. It might get a little messy with my virginity and all.

Cycle looks good, really I came in to say that BBQ looks fucking delicious!

I need to get on that, would make bulking a hell of a lot easier lol

^ Bulk BBQ'ing on the weekends is the way to go.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

^ Bulk BBQ'ing on the weekends is the way to go.

Except I hate leftovers. I havent a clue why. I just barely bought a microwave a few weeks ago so i can heat food on the run. I hate microwaves.

Just an update.

EP came through amazingly fast.
Ordered on the 7th at 10pm and received on the 10th. Basically three days because the 7th was already gone.
Thanks EP.

By the way, I am not sure what the rules are. If this isnt allowed mods can delete this post.

Yep Ep is quick for sure, don't think there's any problem with your post though.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Yep Ep is quick for sure, don't think there's any problem with your post though.

Thanks. I read a lot about source checking etc. Wasn't sure how indepth(even though its talked about a lot). I just wanted to add a disclaimer.

Can't really see through the blue tint, but wondering if the dropper has markings on it. Liquid appears to be cloudy.
Is this something I shake before taking? Making sure I cover all my bases to the T before I start the T.

BTW incase it cant be seen this is Aromasin(Exemestane).
Two bottles to cover my whole cycle. Refrigerate after opening, at all?