Winstrol Now or Winstrol Later is the ?

**sirmattiep** · 08-13-2011, 05:58 PM

Hey guys this coming monday will be my 2nd shot of 250mg test e on week 9 of 12 wk cycle.
wk 1-2 25mg Dbol
wk 3-5 50mg Dbol
wk 1-12 500mg Test E
Arimidex .5mg EOD

Started weight 170 now roughly 195, I guesstimate about 11-12% body fat. I'm at the stage where I feel I've done enough bulking and I'm ready to start cutting. My Oral Solution winstrol arrived, planning on taking 25mg am and 25mg pm for 4 weeks. I also had to order a 10ml test e 250 to help complete the last 3 weeks leaving me with an extra 3 weeks.

My question is do I start my winstrol now or wait until first pin of week 10 next thursday because after doing some research I found that test e lasts about 2 weeks in your system after your last pin. So does this sound like the path I should follow or should I start dosing now?

Or should I just continue bulking and finish my vial of test 250 to extend my 12 week cycle to a 15 week and start the winstrol on week 13? What are your guys suggestions/opinions Any help is greatly appreciated. Many thanks!

**sirmattiep** · 08-14-2011, 09:31 AM

bumpp

**SloppyJ** · 08-14-2011, 09:36 AM

What's your cycle experience before this?

It's not wise to cut with such newly formed muscle. It needs time to mature if you want any chances of it sticking around after pct. And by "Cut" what do you mean? You know winstrol isn't going to shred u up magically right?

**bigdtrain** · 08-14-2011, 09:50 AM

you should do winny with test regardless. dont wait start it now.
the biggest things are going to be diet and training if you want to shred up
if those arnt in tact you can forget about the cutting

**sirmattiep** · 08-14-2011, 11:52 AM

2nd cycle. Well it is a hardener so by running it I assume it's gonna makey muscles harder and look more defined.. And since I have it I'm gonna use it. I just wasn't sure when but thanks imme get on it. Yeah I'm gonna be doing mad cardio light weight high reps. High protein low carb diet.

**bigdtrain** · 08-14-2011, 12:11 PM

cool, run it now, will be great

**sirmattiep** · 08-14-2011, 02:37 PM

Thanks boss!

**bagram09** · 08-14-2011, 07:26 PM

whats a good dose for a begginer using dbol/winstrol stack?

**SloppyJ** · 08-14-2011, 07:49 PM

Make sure you still get a lot of calories to help retain the muscle that you have gained. I'd say start it on week 10 and run it up until 3-4 days before PCT on week 14.

**Pittsburgh63** · 08-14-2011, 08:12 PM

^^^^ x2

**bigdtrain** · 08-15-2011, 05:57 AM

i would not necessarly use them together;
they are both 17aa chemicals.
however if you use it in a stack you could use the dbols first 4 weeks, and then 6 weeks start your winstrol. always run test with them. dbol
30-50mg depending on how your body responds. my first time with dbol i ran 40 and worked great. and winny a good dose is about 50mg a day for a first timer

Originally Posted by bagram09

whats a good dose for a begginer using dbol/winstrol stack?

**SloppyJ** · 08-15-2011, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by bigdtrain

i would not necessarly use them together;
they are both 17aa chemicals.
however if you use it in a stack you could use the dbols first 4 weeks, and then 6 weeks start your winstrol. always run test with them. dbol
30-50mg depending on how your body responds. my first time with dbol i ran 40 and worked great. and winny a good dose is about 50mg a day for a first timer

Actually an all oral stack isn't good for a beginner.

A straight Test-E cycle should be the first.

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