Thread: Sustanon Log!

Only if you blasted 1g and doing 500mg E5D.

I think there are lots of members who'd love to see a log.
Sust is awesome, it usually takes about a week to kick in for me

I heart sust!!

don't trouble yourself

I'd follow for sure bro, I'm sure there would be others who would be interested as well - go for it if you're up to it

Thank you everyone for your feedback.

After the first week of sust. I am really starting to feel it during the training.
My current weight is 186.1 and I am post competition. This is my first cycle and I am expecting great gains from it. My current Macro's are 300g of protein 315g of carbs and 72g of fat daily.

One thing I have noticed is my aggression while I train ( not outside of it) and my pumps have gotten a lot better, some of the best in my life. This could be a combination of being post contest and the first week. Update Soon!

WOW I am feeling great In the gym and my weight is up both on the scale and in training. This is definitely something I recommend to others who are tryna gain! My weight is up to 192.0 and I am feeling like a mini beast ( beast = 220 and higher lol)

I started sust a week ago- 1cc every 3 days. keep us posted, i am interested on your gains- are you taking any supplements with other than your basics, protein, fish oil, mv, etc...

Originally Posted by Bigred111

I started sust a week ago- 1cc every 3 days. keep us posted, i am interested on your gains- are you taking any supplements with other than your basics, protein, fish oil, mv, etc...

people knock the shit out of sustanon, and there's a lot of debate on dosing frequency, length and quantity.

outline your protocol OP.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

people knock the shit out of sustanon, and there's a lot of debate on dosing frequency, length and quantity.

outline your protocol OP.

outline your protocol OP??? Sorry I am not good with all the lingo, I just guess what your asking.

Started a cycle of test cyp1 10/250, mon-thurs 1cc, on 7-11-11 and ran out and my provider only had Sust on hand-400mg/12ml (hgh labs) take on mon and thurs 1cc. (I used test enth 400/12ml from hgh labs in march and loved it)- i have heard mixed reviews as well with dosing, freq, length, etc...I figure I will contine the same mon-thurs 1cc each until I am done then start pct.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

people knock the shit out of sustanon, and there's a lot of debate on dosing frequency, length and quantity.

outline your protocol OP.

Got a question- this is my 2nd cycle of test and was wondering if adding some winny or getting some clen from Extreme pep would be beneficial- the reason I ask is that in 6 weeks I go to Jamaica and I would like to shed some of the fat before I get to the beach. Is it worth taking with sust? Let me know what you think. Thanks

I did sust for my first cycle and had excellent results but I lost a lot after I finished. I wish I'd used hcg.

Originally Posted by SumMiscGuy

I did sust for my first cycle and had excellent results but I lost a lot after I finished. I wish I'd used hcg.

This is my plan during and when done:

I would use Extreme peptides. I would get Exemestane (aromasin) for on cycle at 12.5mgs eod. Then for PCT use Aromasin at 25/25/12.5/12.5mgs ed wks 1-4 with
Clomid at 100/100/75/50mgs ed wks 1-4. Aromasin is the best choice for on cycle AI.

You think this would be enough or should I ad hcg as well??

Sust needs to be shot EOD so that you can take full advantage of all the short esters.

Originally Posted by Bigred111

Got a question- this is my 2nd cycle of test and was wondering if adding some winny or getting some clen from Extreme pep would be beneficial- the reason I ask is that in 6 weeks I go to Jamaica and I would like to shed some of the fat before I get to the beach. Is it worth taking with sust? Let me know what you think. Thanks

Well sust will cause water retention but something like that may help you to harden the look up. How many weeks are you into your cycle?

Originally Posted by the_warchief

Well sust will cause water retention but something like that may help you to harden the look up. How many weeks are you into your cycle?

6 weeks-my first 5 weeks were test cyp 250/10- this sust has more with 400mg/12ml. this should last 6 weeks if I take mon and thurs

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

Sust needs to be shot EOD so that you can take full advantage of all the short esters.

I am taking 1cc on mon and thurs, I know you mentioned to take 1/2 cc eod before but what downfalls is there if I do it 2 times a week instead- you stated about short esters, i am kinda new to this so please explain.

thanks

What is my protocol?

125mg= every other day with rotating inj. in the quads and shoulders. ( haven't done glutes yet)
This comes out to being about 440mg/ a week of sustanon.
This comes out to be a half of a mL (1/2ml) every other day.

HCG started week two (2) and running at 500IU on a wednesday and a Sunday which will bring it out to be 1,000IU weekly.

Also running Aromasin (exemestane) but haven't started it yet, starting soon.Will Update.

I am also thinking about using a Prohormone from Iron Labs during the last part of the cycle or running something to help harden up a bit. The gains so far have been real good and I am excited for this. I am post competition and im starting to really fill out.

My starting weight a week and 1 day ago was 186.0 and currently I am about 192.0 (not bad!) I have noticed a fully look and better "pump" feeling in my muscles throughout the day which is great!

Anyone have any questions?

Originally Posted by Bigred111

I am taking 1cc on mon and thurs, I know you mentioned to take 1/2 cc eod before but what downfalls is there if I do it 2 times a week instead- you stated about short esters, i am kinda new to this so please explain.

thanks

Sustanon contains 4 compounds

Prop - short
Phenylprop - short
isocaproate - longer
and decanoate - longer

The two first compounds listed have shorter active lives. This basically means that it kicks into your system fast, but also tapers off fast. You want to maintain blood levels, that is why I suggest pinning eod... especially because of the prop which has an active life of (I believe) 2 days.

If you feel you have noticed any gains like you have mentioned, it's because of these shorter esters. Eventually the longer esters will kick in and you will be loving life!!!!

If you INSIST on pinning it only on Mondays & Thursdays I would have to recommend pinning first thing on Monday morning and Thursday afternoon.

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

Sustanon contains 4 compounds

Prop - short
Phenylprop - short
isocaproate - longer
and decanoate - longer

The two first compounds listed have shorter active lives. This basically means that it kicks into your system fast, but also tapers off fast. You want to maintain blood levels, that is why I suggest pinning eod... especially because of the prop which has an active life of (I believe) 2 days.

If you feel you have noticed any gains like you have mentioned, it's because of these shorter esters. Eventually the longer esters will kick in and you will be loving life!!!!

If you INSIST on pinning it only on Mondays & Thursdays I would have to recommend pinning first thing on Monday morning and Thursday afternoon.

Thanks for sharing brotha! Keep it coming!!!

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

Sustanon contains 4 compounds

Prop - short
Phenylprop - short
isocaproate - longer
and decanoate - longer

The two first compounds listed have shorter active lives. This basically means that it kicks into your system fast, but also tapers off fast. You want to maintain blood levels, that is why I suggest pinning eod... especially because of the prop which has an active life of (I believe) 2 days.

If you feel you have noticed any gains like you have mentioned, it's because of these shorter esters. Eventually the longer esters will kick in and you will be loving life!!!!

If you INSIST on pinning it only on Mondays & Thursdays I would have to recommend pinning first thing on Monday morning and Thursday afternoon.

I can offer an alternative pinning method.

The problem with EOD pinning is your still not getting enough of the short ester. 30mg of prop and 30mg of isoprop - with short esters in general you'd pin a minimum of 50mg ED or 100mg EOD.

The 2nd issue is you're ignoring the longer esters - after a number of weeks you're getting a constant build up, which will throw your plasma levels out of whack.

Sustanon is designed with a cascading effect of testosterone release, so thus it must be used as such to maximise the effectiveness of the product.

An alternative dosing would be to take 3-4 mls every 7-8 days. Day 1 you get a dose of 90-120mg of prop, followed by a similar amount of phenyl prop day 2-3. Day 5 Isoprop kicks in, then day 6-8 decanoate kicks in . . . make sense?

Read an article, I haven't tried the protocol. I would adjust the protocol to pin 1ml EOD for 2-3 weeks, then change to pinning 3-4mls every 7-8 days once things got kicked on.

Personally prefer Enanth or Cyp - undecanoate for cruising rather than a multi-ester blend.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

I can offer an alternative pinning method.

The problem with EOD pinning is your still not getting enough of the short ester. 30mg of prop and 30mg of isoprop - with short esters in general you'd pin a minimum of 50mg ED or 100mg EOD.

The 2nd issue is you're ignoring the longer esters - after a number of weeks you're getting a constant build up, which will throw your plasma levels out of whack.

Sustanon is designed with a cascading effect of testosterone release, so thus it must be used as such to maximise the effectiveness of the product.

An alternative dosing would be to take 3-4 mls every 7-8 days. Day 1 you get a dose of 90-120mg of prop, followed by a similar amount of phenyl prop day 2-3. Day 5 Isoprop kicks in, then day 6-8 decanoate kicks in . . . make sense?

Read an article, I haven't tried the protocol. I would adjust the protocol to pin 1ml EOD for 2-3 weeks, then change to pinning 3-4mls every 7-8 days once things got kicked on.

Personally prefer Enanth or Cyp - undecanoate for cruising rather than a multi-ester blend.

Wow I never thought of doing it this way. I will have to try it sometime. I am only going to stick to pinning EOD because thats the way I have started. Would it hurt to switch?

Originally Posted by the_warchief

Wow I never thought of doing it this way. I will have to try it sometime. I am only going to stick to pinning EOD because thats the way I have started. Would it hurt to switch?

absolutely not. Please do, I would like to see someone log the method. I really should try the method myself

Originally Posted by the_warchief

Wow I never thought of doing it this way. I will have to try it sometime. I am only going to stick to pinning EOD because thats the way I have started. Would it hurt to switch?

You're not pinning EOD, you're pinning e3d