Thread: first cycle maybe?

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

ok i'm 43 years old went from 279lbs to 195 since sept 28 2010 work out 5 days a week. diet under control 20 fat 45 carb 35 protien currently eating 500 under maint. got blood work done and test is like 380 and free was 80 thinking of going on 10-12 week test cycle what kind of benefits will i see from this? i want to gain size but not to an extreme. i know 1 cycle won't blow you up to that point. i figure if i like results i will probably make this a regular thing till i get to where i want to be. any advice is welcomed. have a friend advicing me who has done this and hgh so he has educated me some what just looking for other points of view. at my age it seems like gaining is pretty tough.
thanks

This is a good place to start in terms of educating yourself about using AAS:

First Cycle and PCT

Do you know your BF%?

been reading alot just looking for real world input on what to expect. bf around 18%

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

been reading alot just looking for real world input on what to expect. bf around 18%

You'll want to get your BF% down to AT LEAST 15% prior to running a cycle. A first time Test only cycle can yield 15-20lbs of weight gain if the user's diet and training routine are dialed-in.

This would be a good cycle for you:

Wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/wk (divided into 250mg 2x/wk)
Wk 1-11 Aromasin 12.5 eod or ed (dependant upon how your body responds to aromatization)
Wk 1-10 hcg 250iu x2/wk (Will make recovery easier thus easier to maintain gains)

PCT for 4 weeks (2 weeks after last shot of Test)

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

I think I will start pissing people off but from my understandng for HCG, you have to mix it with bac. wat., how is the measurements, how do we do it?

HCG confuses me a little bit, can someone explain?

Originally Posted by ambiti

I think I will start pissing people off but from my understandng for HCG, you have to mix it with bac. wat., how is the measurements, how do we do it?

HCG confuses me a little bit, can someone explain?

How To Prepare and Dose HCG

You are starting to piss people off. Keep your questions in your own threads instead of hijacking others.

Having lost that much weight, are you dialed into consistent weight training or do you spend 3/4 of your gym time on the tread? People who think steroids make you blow up into some huge barbarian hulk with 25" are sorely mistaken. If that were the case, every member of this subsection would give Jay Cutler a run for his money this olympia.

Gaining at your age is slightly more difficult, but you shouldn't feel as if you have to rely on synthetic test. Personally though, as long as you understand safe AAS usage, it seems almost stupid not to once you have a sound diet and lifting routine. brewing your own gear just makes it that much sweeter.

Major diet changes gave up fast food, sodas, garbage. Now log everything I eat on phone program know p/c/f of anything before I eat it total lifeStyle change been lifting since december 2010 with some cardi mixed in.
On a cycle do you eat like a bulk?
Workout on a 4day split with free weights only. Do 20-30 min cardio after lifting trying to lose bodyfat. Is 400 considered real low for test level?
Thanks

Your diet on cycle is all your choice. If you're trying to cut up, then eat well below maintenance while keeping protein high. if you're bulking, eat above maintenance in the 4000-5000 range. If you're trying to recomp, you can eat slightly below or above maintenance and depending on your compounds, you'll probably gain some mass and lose some fat.

From what I've heard, training on cycle is heavily dependent on how well you're recovering. You might be lifting 4 days now, but if you notice your feeling good the next day after a workout, it doesn't hurt to add another workout for a 5 day split. Also, some will add more weight/reps/sets depending on your training routines cause anabolics help you push yourself further then you thot possible.

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

Major diet changes gave up fast food, sodas, garbage. Now log everything I eat on phone program know p/c/f of anything before I eat it total lifeStyle change been lifting since december 2010 with some cardi mixed in.
On a cycle do you eat like a bulk?
Workout on a 4day split with free weights only. Do 20-30 min cardio after lifting trying to lose bodyfat. Is 400 considered real low for test level?
Thanks

400 is low, but normal for your age. Because you have only been training for a few months, I hesitate to recommend a cycle at this point. At the same time however, testosterone therapy will greatly benefit you because your test levels are much lower than say a 25 year old. If you feel that you are ready, you are old enough to make that decision, but I would get your BF% down as previously stated. That will also allow you to acquire more training experience.