Thread: First cycle input for an old fart

Good job waiting until you are older to start the juice. I think the dbol is on the long side. Just my 2 cents.

I would end the dbol at week four or five, ten weeks is a long time to run it. Also dbol gave me a lump and made my nips itch, but nolva cleared it up. Ten weeks would probably mess you up bad, ha. Good luck.

Originally Posted by joe4334

I am 35 @ 150lbs with training @ 3 years with gyno from puberty

below is my proposed 1st cycle:
Week 1-10
Testosterone cypionate
250 mg at twice week (500mg total)

Week 1-3
Dianabol
20 mg per day (140mg total)

Week 4-10
Dianabol
40 mg per day (280mg total)

Week 1-10
Aromasin/Exemestane
12.5 mg per day (87.5mg total)

Week 1-10
HCG
250iu at twice per week (500iu total)

Unfortualy I cannot aquire more supplies from my current source and am looking for advise as I will purchase from your store.

1. Does that seem decent for the 1st cycle?
2. Should I end the dbol after week 4?
2. If so, I do not have enough Aromasin, correct? Should I run aromasin into the PCT?
3. How much HCG should be taken per week? Should that also run into the PCT? Should it be a different configuration?
4. What would you propose for a PCT?

Please respond with suggestions on cycle, PCT, etc...

As mentioned, stop the dbol by the fifth week.

Yes, run the aromasin all the way though pct. 12.5 ed during cycle should be adequate however, you will be the best judge of how your body is doing.

Run the hcg up through the second week following your final injection of test.

Add clomid into the pct, along with aromasin for 4 weeks:
100/25
100/25
50/12.5
50/12.5

Fix the gyno you got from your first cycle then get back to us.

D-bol and test is a gyno recipe.

Thanks for all the replies!
The gyno was from when I was going through puberty (age 12-16) not from a cycle. This will be my first.
It sounds best to go with just a test cycle and drop the dbol. Should it be 10 weeks or extended to 14-16?

Also, I've read HCG can promote gyno as well. Should I leave it out?

Thanks again!

10 weeks on the test. HCG at your doses will be fine.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

D-bol and test is a gyno recipe.

So you would avoid Dbol, even with Aromasin, on a Test cycle? Thanks for any advice you give, Heavy.

No, dbol is an amazing accompaniment with test. Just use 25mg of LEGIT properly dosed aromasin daily and keep nolva on hand provided you're not running a 19-nor... Popping aromasin like candy or drinking it like soda solves all problems

And just to let you know, if you stop feeling that alpha male, life is fucking awesome, i can bang anything that moves feeling while on dbol+test, chances are your e2 is too high. There was just a thread talking about how they'd ran dbol and test but loss that good feel that accompanies them. Blood test showed the aromasin wasn't working well enough despite no gyno or bloat.

sounds like a plan AI's in check and ready to go run the dbol at 30mgs for 5 weeks and your set

Originally Posted by G3

So you would avoid Dbol, even with Aromasin, on a Test cycle? Thanks for any advice you give, Heavy.

I would never avoid d-bol but if your prone to gyno you need to have all your ancillaries on hand.

So after a lot of thinking, below is the cycle I am going to run. Would you recommend aromasin or another AI. If so, what dosage? I have to purchase more anyways, so if there is another suggestion, I will get that as well to be safe. Again, that you all so much for the info. It has helped a ton.

Week:
1-4 Dbol @ 20mg ED
1-10 Test c @ 250mg Mon and Wed
5-10 HCG @ 250iu Tues and Thurs

1-10 Aromasin 12.5 mg ED

PCT
Week:
12-16 nolvadex 20mg ed for 3 weeks 10mg ed for 2 weeks.

I understand the risks regarding DBOL and will tread lightly. I am having surgery at the end of the year to correct the gnyo from puberty so that gives me some piece of mind.

PCT - Clomid and aromasin!

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I would never avoid d-bol but if your prone to gyno you need to have all your ancillaries on hand.

im with heavy if you know you have a gyno problem make sure you have ALL you ancilleries letro or nolva along withyou pct ones and youll be good to go

I have enough for one last pin. Cycle was 2Xweek @ 500g.
Should I pin the 500g, split it into 2 pins at 250g (today and Thursday), or just end it?

Longer on test c and less on dbol

If you are old at 35 what am I at 47 ? Try the doctor, you are probably more ready for TRT then a cycle.