Veins and Glutes...problem

**appleyard777** · 08-25-2011, 07:38 AM

I am currently running my first cycle of injections...I am exactly 3 weeks in tomorrow.

test C @ 600mg a week...(2 shots a week)

Pinning with 23g 1.5inch needles

Im using outer upper part of glutes (following spotinjections.com) or ventrogluteal for my injections.

I keep aspirating blood. The last 3 to 4 shots actually its taking me several attempts to not aspirate blood. Can some people just naturally have more veins and blood vessels in certain areas? Its really starting to give me bad pinning anxiety because im so damn worried about shooting some into a vein.

Maybe its time to switch it up and try quads or delts?

Just curious if anyone has had similar issues with glutes or has any extra advice.

**blazeftp** · 08-25-2011, 09:42 AM

Don't worry about it bro just inject.
Most Docs/Nurses don't aspirate now days.

Or you could try quads.

**BigBird** · 08-25-2011, 10:07 AM

I never aspirated once. I've pinned glutes (and delts) a gazillion times.
Never had an issue therefore I cannot make any suggestions other than if you're nervous about aspirating, keep trying until you get no blood. Maybe I'm just lucky.

**bigdtrain** · 08-25-2011, 10:10 AM

no you have to aspirate, have to

**appleyard777** · 08-25-2011, 11:07 AM

I always thought aspiration on IM injections was very important....but not so much on subq injections....

But i know of guys that never aspirate and are fine

**malfeasance** · 08-25-2011, 12:18 PM

I cannot hold the needle so still as the thickness of a vein, so the aspiration would not help me anyway. By the time I am done injecting, the needle is at a different depth anyway.

**ct67_72** · 08-25-2011, 05:49 PM

yes you need to aspirate.
i was told by many to stay away from glutes for this exact reason and was even told by a doctor to stick to delts. seems to be the best place. very easy. quad is very easy too, but the pip is pretty bad.

**MDR** · 08-25-2011, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by ct67_72

yes you need to aspirate.
i was told by many to stay away from glutes for this exact reason and was even told by a doctor to stick to delts. seems to be the best place. very easy. quad is very easy too, but the pip is pretty bad.

You DO NOT need to aspirate. Doctors and Nurses don't aspirate. I have used injectibles for over 20 years, and I have never aspirated. Do it if you like, but it is not a necessity by any means. Nothing wrong with using your glutes, either.

**TGB1987** · 08-25-2011, 07:58 PM

Aspirating is no longer needed. I know I was shocked when I heard this but it is true if you stick to the main injection site areas there is no need to aspirate because there is no major arteries at risk of being injected into. This is something I learned from VictorZ. I still aspirate quads and delts though because I have a lot of vascularity there and I am paranoid. So it is optional. Many say aspirating can cause more damage to the muscle tissue because you may move the needle around inside the muscle while doing it or that it results in you keeping the needle in longer which can cause more time to damage. To the OP are you hitting the upper outer quadrant? I usually flex my glute and you can see a small little muscle in the upper outer quadrant this is where to put the needle. If I hit that spot I usually don't feel a thing.

**sofargone561** · 08-25-2011, 08:09 PM

all these talk of blood, aspirate, dont aspriate is fucking sketching me out!

**Evil Eagle** · 08-25-2011, 08:38 PM

My girl is a nurse and she injects me. From pin #1 she has ALWAYS aspirated. Now, I am not saying that you have to, but apparently they are still teaching them in nursing school that they need to.

**TGB1987** · 08-25-2011, 08:40 PM

There is a study on pubmed I believe that stats it is no longer required but my girl does most of my injections too and I always have her aspirate.

**ct67_72** · 08-25-2011, 09:10 PM

I just can't see taking the chance of injecting into a blood vessel. It's so easy just to do it. I just did it left handed with one hand.

**BigBird** · 08-26-2011, 08:04 AM

Nobody should state that you MUST aspirate. Nor would it be fair to state you do NOT have to aspirate. It's "6 to 1" and "half dozen" to another. I NEVER aspirated and have NEVER had a problem therefore the theory that you MUST aspirate is invalidated.

I know bros who also NEVER aspirated and NEVER had a problem. And I'm talking about pinning and cycling off/on for 15 years. I also know bros who aspirate religiously. To each his own. Neither option is a MUST. Personal preference. And I've spoken to MDs that advocate it and other MDs who laugh at the idea.
Go figure. I received multiple IM injections in the glutes and delts upon arrival to boot camp and aspiration was not done. I've also received occassional IM injections in the civilian sector, as have others I know, and aspiration has NEVER been done.

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