Thread: mgs..cc's...iu's

normally the vial will have the concentration/per cc. ie test p 100 will have 100mg per cc.

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

normally the vial will have the concentration/per cc. ie test p 100 will have 100mg per cc.

I got ya thanks i feel like a bit of a tit now but i had to ask.. so when i was running 1cc 2 X a week that would be the equevilant of me running say 50mg 4 X a week.. correct?

that depends entirely on the gear you're using, they're not all the same

1cc of enanthate might usually equal 250mg but it could be 350, 400, 200 whatever. Read the vial or check your source

Originally Posted by Digitalash

that depends entirely on the gear you're using, they're not all the same

1cc of enanthate might usually equal 250mg but it could be 350, 400, 200 whatever. Read the vial or check your source

cheers its always confused me really thats why ive always ran enenthate less hassle.. the last course i done of test n tren e was 250mg test and 150 tren per bottle.. so if it were prop at the same dose id be running

50mg x 5 a week of test prop
30mg x 5 a week tren

would that be arite? or should i break to

60mg X 4 a week test prop
40mg X 4 a week tren

pinning eod? do keep blood levels stable?...

whats the benefit of running prop over enenthate is it because it is a shorter ester and kicks in quicker or the fact if you get sides you could discontinue and it will be out your system alot quicker?? just wondering..

that only adds up to 250mg of test and 150mg per week tren bro

Some guys are prescribed 250mg test just for testosterone replacement...?

Usually the gear will have something like 250mg per ml. 1ml=1cc

Originally Posted by Digitalash

that only adds up to 250mg of test and 150mg per week tren bro

Some guys are prescribed 250mg test just for testosterone replacement...?

yeah i just realised the last course i done was only 200mg test e and 100mg tren e.. is that really low is it? i grew alot on that dose aswell i had no idea people were on 250 just for trt?


I can get pretty much any thing of my source my friend is running test 400 (enenthate) at the min hes growin off it! so say hes running it 2cc a week that like 800mg a week!! would you consider that a strong course lol... sure sounds like a lot.. considering what ive been running.

Yes you can grow off that, but I think it would be mostly the tren. Up the test to at least 350 and another 100+ mg tren and you've got a decent cycle imo. Really I would go like 500mg test and 300 tren though, don't forget you should use cabergoline with tren or deca


If you're gonna be shutdown either way, might as well get as much out of the cycle as possible

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Yes you can grow off that, but I think it would be mostly the tren. Up the test to at least 350 and another 100+ mg tren and you've got a decent cycle imo. Really I would go like 500mg test and 300 tren though, don't forget you should use cabergoline with tren or deca


If you're gonna be shutdown either way, might as well get as much out of the cycle as possible

Thanks for the advise man i appreciate it

excuse my ignorance but whats cabergoline? i ran hgc througout the course then just nolva and clomid for pct..this next course tho im going to get same again but some letro and cabergoline aswell? im goin all out on this course and stocking up for a extra cycle in advance.

Cabergoline prevents side effects from compounds like tren/deca which are called "19-nor's" You can probably get away with it at the dosage you first used but if you go much higher than that you risk getting a different type of gyno that arimidex or nolva won't prevent. Nolva may worsen it even.

Take it easy with the letro though, it's almost impossible to get the dosage right for an on-cycle AI. Best left to reversing gyno really, tried it for a bit and I couldn't find a dosage low enough that didn't fuck my joints/sex drive.

250mg test is sometimes prescribed for TRT but for most it will put them above the normal range, sometimes by quite a bit. It's still not "cycle" levels though IMO. Tren is very powerful so even at 150mg you're going to grow better than natty, but again I would still go higher than that.

Thanks man so at the dose you stated which was 500mg test and 300mg tren although im not going to go quite that high i dont think i just want to clear this up this course would look like this :

Test prop 100mg X 5 a week
Tren prop 60 mg x 5 a week

That would acount to 5cc of test prop a week am i right?

Im confusing myself a bit here lol.

That depends on what dosage your gear is, it's not always the same but it will tell you on the vial. AKA it'll say 100mg/ml or something similar. That is the most common for prop though yes.

Also it's tren ace, not prop most likely. More gear doesn't always mean more growth of course, but until you hit a certain point it usually does

the last course i done was only 200mg test and 100mg tren per 10 ml bottle it was a blend but i was doing 2cc a week so i was actually on 400mg test and 200mg tren then rite??

and does test prop only go up to test prop 250 per 10ml bottle?

also whats the best size barrels for drawing up the gear are i got loads of 2ml ones left..

I'm sry bro but do you know basic math?

200 x 2 = 400
100 x 2 = 200

I've never heard of prop coming in 250mg per ml and don't think it's possible. Sounds like enanthate or cypionate.

Your over thinking this whole thing...

If your vial for example is test e @ 250mg/ml...1cc or 1ml will equal 250mg...2cc or 2ml = 500mg...

With a slin pin, 1cc or the whole barrel (100iu) will hold 1ml or gear or 250mg per my example above

Same goes for a vial @ 100mg/ml...

Originally Posted by Digitalash

I'm sry bro but do you know basic math?

200 x 2 = 400
100 x 2 = 200

I've never heard of prop coming in 250mg per ml and don't think it's possible. Sounds like enanthate or cypionate.

yes bro i do know basic math that is why in my last post i said i was running a test and tren blend that was 200mg test 100mg tren (per bottle)..i was running 2cc a week of it which would give me double the dose coming in at 400mg test and 200mg which i just wrote in my last post?...

Originally Posted by Digitalash

I'm sry bro but do you know basic math?

200 x 2 = 400
100 x 2 = 200

I've never heard of prop coming in 250mg per ml and don't think it's possible. Sounds like enanthate or cypionate.

My bad it was cyp. any way back to me beeing shit at maths lol say you was running test prop 100 from a 10ml bottle.. how many bottles would you go through on a 10 week course if running it at 500mg a week? i wont ask much more silly questions promise..

Originally Posted by bulldogz

Your over thinking this whole thing...

If your vial for example is test e @ 250mg/ml...1cc or 1ml will equal 250mg...2cc or 2ml = 500mg...

With a slin pin, 1cc or the whole barrel (100iu) will hold 1ml or gear or 250mg per my example above

Same goes for a vial @ 100mg/ml...

I over think every thing! lol..

Thanks for the slin pin thing i know i must sound pretty fukin stupid asking all that but ive always used enenthate its easyer less shots but i wanna try prop just seems like alot of shots to take lol but i like the advantages of it beeing a quick ester and all... thanks for that tho bud.

Originally Posted by jimm

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My bad it was cyp. any way back to me beeing shit at maths lol say you was running test prop 100 from a 10ml bottle.. how many bottles would you go through on a 10 week course if running it at 500mg a week? i wont ask much more silly questions promise..

Your question is still a bit silly but I'll oblige anyway. 500mg a week of test p is a daily dose of about 75mg daily or 150mg every other day. That means u will need 525mg weekly and 5250mg in 10 weeks. Test p in a 10ml vial at 100mg/ml is 1000mg. So

5250/1000=5.25 vials or 6 vials cuz u always lose oil when transferring from vial to syringe.

Tren is also 1000mg per vial. At 300mg a week, ur daily dose is about 50mg daily or 100 mg every other day. That means

10 weeks x 350 mg = 3500 mg
3500mg/1000mg/vial is 4 vials

The daily and every other day dosing I described is the only reasonable method to use without going ape shit with a slin pin trying to get quarter and eighths of mls which is a big fucking pain.

It's better to ask silly questions then to get fucked up on dangerous drugs and cry for help later. DO NOT SKIP TAKING CABERGOLIN AND AROMASIN/ADEX!!!!

Originally Posted by pieguy

Your question is still a bit silly but I'll oblige anyway. 500mg a week of test p is a daily dose of about 75mg daily or 150mg every other day. That means u will need 525mg weekly and 5250mg in 10 weeks. Test p in a 10ml vial at 100mg/ml is 1000mg. So

5250/1000=5.25 vials or 6 vials cuz u always lose oil when transferring from vial to syringe.

Tren is also 1000mg per vial. At 300mg a week, ur daily dose is about 50mg daily or 100 mg every other day. That means

10 weeks x 350 mg = 3500 mg
3500mg/1000mg/vial is 4 vials

The daily and every other day dosing I described is the only reasonable method to use without going ape shit with a slin pin trying to get quarter and eighths of mls which is a big fucking pain.

It's better to ask silly questions then to get fucked up on dangerous drugs and cry for help later. DO NOT SKIP TAKING CABERGOLIN AND AROMASIN/ADEX!!!!

Thanks for the help bro.. and i tottaly agree about asking the silly questions now rather then later and ill also be sure to stock up on cabergolin and aromasin before i start pinning again.

Lol didn't mean to come off as a dick, so I apologize. You just weren't giving us enough details to work with and didn't seem like you wanted to actually do the math yourself.

Cycle looks good now though and with that much test/tren you'll have excellent results.

Good luck sleeping though. And have a lot of towels ready

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cuz u always lose oil when transferring from vial to syringe.

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damn i didnt no that. i ordered just enough test E for 10 week cycle i shoulda grabbed more huh?

Yeah. Usually some oil gets caught in the needle where the luer lock is and you usually push some oil out of the needle to lubricate during injection which is all potential loss. Also, most vials aren't a perfect 10ml or you'd be lucky to actually get that last full ml when you consider human error in measurement.

oil loss is usually pretty negligible imo, the drop used to lubricate the pin isn't even measurable and whatever's left in the needle itself is still pretty small

go ahead and order more if there's no mininum but I wouldn't sweat it.