you could try aromasin for an ai. a lot guys like it better.

Basicaly i have only run test/dbol cycles 3 of them, great results so y change it, this time its for baskbetball, i play center and have always had amazing cardio from cross country... Anyways... Its a 15 week cycle i want to put on size and streangth without too much fat so i was thinking, i just want to know your thoughts on 2 orals, they wont b at the same time and i will b running plenty of liver support
1-15 test e 500mg ew
1-5 dbol 50mg ed
11-15 winny 50mg ed
Also this is my first time with winny, wat kind of AI should i run, normaly adex but thats with my normal test dbol, should i stick with adex or give something else a go
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My goal from the winny was to trim all the excess weight added by the dbol n test cuz even with my diet on lock i always gain some fat with it, also i use clen normaly after my cycles with pct, run it on cycle? Im trying to b as lean as possible with still gaining lots of streangth n size..... Has anyond run a cycle similar to this 1 and wat were your results like? And will i b able to play ball that hard while on winny cuz of the joint pain?
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Dbol is great but wouldn't be my first choice if you're trying to avoid water retention etc.
Superdrol or superdmz are often overlooked but they're great for adding mass with no bloat, might even drop some fat at the same time. After that I'd suggest tbol or anavar at 60-100mg
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Dude get some tbol, good strength gain and no bloat.
Try the super DMZ. Heard great things. About to finish my cycle up with it myself. Heard the strength gains are comparable.


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i dont think it will compare to all the shit im on now. lol but would love to try it. time to check it out ha![]()
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I used to be a basketball player for years before I done a injury and couldn't play, then turned to this side of fitness alot more.
I'd honestly suggest Tbol as you will gain alot of strength and it will help with sprints and leaping ability in a round about way.
Just my thoughts though.
Also winni may dry you out and you dont want to happen and get an injury.
All the best brother

So the dbol was forsure already lol, i have a shit ton of it and needs to get rid of it, my thoughts behind the cycle was i can gain a little water weight from the dbol n test n its no biggie cuz my streangth goes threw the roof on dbol, and i have little fat as it is, and im center and im really fast for a center the winny was to dry it out a little at the end, i was wondering if maybe adding a small amount of deca would take care of the joint issues that i dont want to have from the winny, again never tried deca or winny if im wron in this n should drop the winstrol n go a different route im up for that too, but the test n dbol r going to happen lol i have tons of dbol and love it so its going to b in the front, add tbol to tbe back maybe???
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As for super dmz i heard it was a no go if im using other orals, i run a good dose of liv 52 with and after my cycles, should i run the dmz at the end? Cuz again im kickstarting with dbol, just trying to have a little more than the test dbol cycle want to FINISH the cycle dryer than i normaly do cuz of the league
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want to finish dryer and you said you already have a little fat on you. So how about changing your diet a bit? Not being a tool bro but people can run the cycle you want and do a lean bulk they just change their diet. And If you want to end with winni its your choice, but I would suggest not to as it will dry your joints etc out and you dont want to be getting an injury. Man look at me I LOVED playing basket ball I played at a fairly high level here where I come from and now I cant play anymore after I tore my ACL and fully disconected my knee joint.
All the best

Lol nah i said i have little fat as it is so im not worried about gaining too much fat, my diet is on lock, i have abs, when i start my cycle it will b under 10% right now im probably chillin at like 12% bf, im just saying with just test n dbol i need to focus more on cardio towards the end and im looking for a way to stay on the leaner side without having to focus on keeping bloat down. I dont necisarily need it but all ive ran is test n dbol, im looking to add something else but not interfere too much with ball...
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Id drop the dbol and get some DMZ. Sell ya dbol to someone lol.
the DMZ is legit shit bro. and lean gains from it.

Ya i was just checking it out, maybe add it tothe last 4? Im looking to put on some extra weight i just dont want it to b too much... I still want my abs lol
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just use the DMZ at the start. You'll keep abs.
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