Thread: My First "light" Cycle with Deca!

No.. just.. No!

It doesn't take much research to figure out that the best beginners cycle would be 4-500mg test-e/c e/w. Inject twice a week (For example: Monday & thursday). 10-12 weeks.

Also, take some AI during the cycle.. 0.5mg arimidex for example, EOD. You use this to keep bloat down, and to prevent gyno.


And if you are dead set on the compounds you have listed, stick with 3-400mg of each, injected once a week.

Very bad idea for a first cycle. A good and light first cycle would be:
weeks 1-12 test e or c at 400-500mg a week
Weeks 1-14 aromasin at 12.5mg every other day. This is an ai which you take to prevent estrogen related side effects.
Pct two weeks after your last test injection:
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

This is a good cycle to start with. You can expect some good results if your diet and training are good.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Very bad idea for a first cycle. A good and light first cycle would be:
weeks 1-12 test e or c at 400-500mg a week
Weeks 1-14 aromasin at 12.5mg every other day. This is an ai which you take to prevent estrogen related side effects.
Pct two weeks after your last test injection:
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

This is a good cycle to start with. You can expect some good results if your diet and training are good.

^^^This is what you want to do.

Why Test-C? I see the info about deca and test c, and this is the result:

Test-E: Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.
Deca: Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 125:37

Deca is no better test-c?

You always need testosterone in your body if you want to feel good and like a man. If you like having a working penis, energy, sex drive, good mood etc. you need to take testosterone with every single cycle. Taking deca will shut your natural production down HARD, and you'll likely feel like shit after just a few weeks. Test is also one of the safest, most effective, and cheapest compounds out there. You don't need anything else for a first cycle.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

You always need testosterone in your body if you want to feel good and like a man. If you like having a working penis, energy, sex drive, good mood etc. you need to take testosterone with every single cycle. Taking deca will shut your natural production down HARD, and you'll likely feel like shit after just a few weeks. Test is also one of the safest, most effective, and cheapest compounds out there. You don't need anything else for a first cycle.

Thanks for the advice. I would, indeed, the safest and most effective (I do not care the price) compounds on the market. You advise me to test-c, rather than the deca? I thought, from what I've read, that the Deca is better than Test-c... but it is more expensive. But I do not want to save money on these things.

Deca is great don't get me wrong. It all comes down to the fact that when you run any type of steroid your natural testosterone production will shut down. Having no testosterone is honestly AWFUL, ask anyone in pct. Not only will you feel like shit and have half ass workouts, if you have the motivation to lift at all, your girlfriend will NOT be happy :P

Testosterone is your natural body's hormone and will cause almost no side effects if you use an aromatase inhibitor to prevent your estrogen from getting too high. Testosterone is everything that makes you a man, and more test just makes it even better. 500mg of test enanthate or cypionate is plenty to grow like a weed if your diet/training are on point. And you'll actually feel awesome during the cycle, which you will NOT if you run anything else by itself.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Deca is great don't get me wrong. It all comes down to the fact that when you run any type of steroid your natural testosterone production will shut down. Having no testosterone is honestly AWFUL, ask anyone in pct. Not only will you feel like shit and have half ass workouts, if you have the motivation to lift at all, your girlfriend will NOT be happy :P

Testosterone is your natural body's hormone and will cause almost no side effects if you use an aromatase inhibitor to prevent your estrogen from getting too high. Testosterone is everything that makes you a man, and more test just makes it even better. 500mg of test enanthate or cypionate is plenty to grow like a weed if your diet/training are on point. And you'll actually feel awesome during the cycle, which you will NOT if you run anything else by itself.

Thanks again... Maybe, I take your advice, but... On the Market there are more brand of Test C/Test E, and I don't know what is the best (the best for me is the safest).

During the cycle should I take Aromasin? Every day from day of my first injection? After two weeks from my last injection I have assume Nolvaldex (in what quantity?)(for how long?) instead of Clomid.

Thanks

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Thanks again... Maybe, I take your advice, but... On the Market there are more brand of Test C/Test E, and I don't know what is the best (the best for me is the safest).

During the cycle should I take Aromasin? Every day from day of my first injection? After two weeks from my last injection I have assume Nolvaldex (in what quantity?)(for how long?) instead of Clomid.

Thanks

Hi,

About the test brand, you have to do your own research. But you can go UGL or HG. Both have pros/cons.

If you go UGL, is possible that the shit is made not under sterile conditions, be under/overdosed, having no test at all on it...
But there is some good and legit UGL where this risks are minimal.

If you go HG, sterility is not an issue and you'll have the best of the best test avalaible. But you have to realize there is a lot of Fake / counterfeit out there for HG gear, so there's still a risk.

Answering your other quetion, you can take a-sin 12,5 mg EOD for 500 mg/week Test-e or Test-c and raise to 12,5 mg ED if some gyno or bloating happends.

40-40-20-20 is a standard dosage for Nolvadex PCT. You have to start PCT 2 weeks after the last shot of TEST. Don't use HCG for PCT.

If you want be ultra-safe, go search on Blood pressure and lipids profile support. And of course, make your bloodwork before starting anything. It would be good if you have a blookwork at mid/end of your cycle too.

Good luck.

Yep above post pretty much covers it

As far as the brand of test that doesn't matter so much as who you get it from. Check out the sponsors here and you can find some great UGL for much cheaper than you'll get HG. Read the reviews and see what people think of it, but I haven't heard of a single infection from any sponsor's gear since I've been here, so as long as you practice safe injection technique you should be fine on that front.

The link in my sig might be a good place to start

Originally Posted by siriuxs

Hi, I'm Italian boy, 27 years old, 168cm x 62kg. I do gym for 2 years, and now I want start my first cycle. Because I'm afraid, I thought of a cycle very "light" to gain a few kg of lean body mass.

This is my cycle:

Week 1. 100mg primobolan (Monday)
Week 2. 100mg primobolan (Monday) + 100mg deca (Thursday)
Week 3. 200mg primobolan (Monday) + 100mg deca (Thursday)
Week 4. 200mg primobolan (Monday) + 200mg deca (Thursday)
Week 5. 300mg primobolan (Monday) + 200mg deca (Thursday)
Week 6. 300mg primobolan (Monday) + 300mg deca (Thursday)
Week 7. 300mg primobolan (Monday) + 300mg deca (Thursday)
Week 8. 300mg primobolan (Monday) + 200mg deca (Thursday)
Week 9. 200mg primobolan (Monday) + 200mg deca (Thursday)
Week 10. 200mg primobolan (Monday) + 100mg deca (Thursday)
Week 11. 100mg primobolan (Monday) + 100mg deca (Thursday)
Week 12. 100mg primobolan

This is my PCT:

Week 1-2. 40mg/day Tamoixfene
Week 3-4. 20mg/day Tamoixfene

According to you, my cycle and my PCT is good?

Very thanks and excuse me for bad english!

Thanks for posting this bro. I have learned a lot by reading this thread. I had the exact same idea for a first.

Originally Posted by rjd

If you want be ultra-safe, go search on Blood pressure and lipids profile support.

chemari, whaT is this? The more I read the more I realize I don't know as much as I thought I did...

wheres the testosterone?
youre not gonna be abel to get a hard on running that cycle iwthout test

Luckily, you have come to the right board for answers. Don't feel embarrassed....we all have to start somewhere. My recommendation, like that of other members, is to do your homework. Don't rush into anything you don't completely understand.

That being said, aas cycling is similar to building a house, but in this case it is your physical composition that you are trying to build. Common sense will tell you that you do not start with the roof. The foundation is the the element that will help shape the rest of the structure. A week foundation can cause major problems that will prevent you from building the other key components. In this case, testosterone is the foundation. Start simple! There is a huge misconception that more is better and that is not the case. A strict diet and training regiment greatly compliments mild-mid dosages of aas. Start simple your first time around with a dosage of approx 500 mg of test and build from there. Here is the basic roadmap (just my recommendation):

Cycle 1: 12-14 weeks of 500mg of Testosterone Enanthate + 4 weeks of PCT

Off: 12-14 weeks after completion of PCT

Cycle 2: 14-16 weeks of 500mg of Test E + 500mg of Equipoise + 4 weeks of PCT

Off: 14-16 weeks after completion of PCT

Cycle 3: 14 weeks of 500mg Test E + 500mg EQ + 400mg Masteron + 4 weeks of PCT

Off: 14-16 weeks after completion of PCT

Cycle 4: 8-10 weeks of Test Prop + 300mg of Tren + 50mg of Anavar + 4 weeks of PCT

This is just a general guideline, and the compounds can be substituted at your discression. Hopefully you can see the general principal of starting simple and implementing additional compounds as you progress. Do some research and continue to ask questions!

Best of luck