You will be ok but you need some time now..

I'm 3 weeks into my PCT. I ran a 15 week cycle of Tren A, Test E, and EQ. The last 3 weeks I blasted HCG at 1500 IU EOD. I'm running clomid and Arimidex for PCT. The First day I took 300 mgs of clomid, then day 2 for two weeks I took 100 mgs, then for the last 4 weeks I will run 50 mgs ED. I'm taking arimidex at .25 mgs. I'm at week three of PCT and my nuts are still very small. I'm only 20 years old and trust me I know I'm way too young to cycle and after this experience I'm completely done with AAS. Peopl have said it usually takes around 2-3 weeks for your nuts to come back up to size but as I said, mine are still small. My PCT is a lot longer than normal because I ran a pretty heavy cycle for it only being my second cycle. I'm starting to get worried that I may have permanent hypogonadism. What are everyone elses thoughts?
You will be ok but you need some time now..
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You were on tren a for 15 weeks?!

So you didn't listen to use when we said 20 was too young and now you're worried you fucked yourself over? Nice...
If you stay shut down, do another cycle of pct. You're probably unnecessarily stressing yourself out.
If that was a first cycle though, and you ran tren/eq/test, man, you're an idiot. Did you even take prami or caber?
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Mabey you just have small nutz?
j/k bro, 15 weeks is way to long IMO for tren ace. Go get bloodwork done bro.

and here i am, semi-worrying about running a 6 week tren cycle at age 23...damn bro you really went all out on this one eh? good luck on your recovery.

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After 15 weeks you'll be lucky if your dick ever works again. Jk bro that's way long but can't do shit about it now but check your blood work. See where you're at


Look on the bright side, if your nuts are smaller then your dick looks bigger![]()
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Sorry for not telling you guys my dosages. I ran 500 mgs Test, 600 mgs EQ, and the last 8 weeks ran tren at 50 mgs EOD. My source told me to stick with a low dosage. I'm also running prami at .5 mgs ED during PCT. I DID NOT RUN TREN FOR 15 WEEKS!

50mg EOD is quite the conservative dosage. I don't see it being that bad but 8 weeks is kind of long.
How long did you wait to start PCT? Maybe lay out your cycle exactly how you ran it including PCT start time and everything.

Next time stop the tren before the test. That might have been your problem bro.
Nothing you can do now but wait. Keep eating good and training hard.
your all saying 8 weeks is kinda long? is that cause he was running ace and not enenthate? i ran a test and tren enethante blend for 9 weeks i used hcg all the way through my cycle and i swear my nuts were and still are fucking HUGE and i finished my pct about 6 weeks ago i dont know if i imagined it or what but first time i injected the hgc it felt like my nuts DOUBLED UP lol any one else ever experienced this or was it a placebo effect!! and i only done 300iu's on the days i pinned which was twice a week?? This guys running 1500iu every other day isnt that a little high??
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Some people take longer to recover than others, I personally recover just fine on 5 week pct after 16 weekers without hcg. Its VERY rare that people stay permo shut down, especialy when using proper pct. Like they said above, just do more pct til your working properly again.


i would like to know how much weight did ya gain, what positive sides did ya have off this cycle ?

I'm 5'11 and before I started the cycle I was 220 at 12% bf and post cycle I ended up at 235 and 9% bf. I felt strong as an ox all throughout the cycle. The tren definitely messed with my mind. Honestly, I feel like tren made me extremely paranoid, but not neccesarily aggressive. I was the most vascular I've ever been and would get a pump just from brushing my teeth. The negatives outweighed the positives though. The only negative thing I felt was tren dick. I was limp as a noodle and still am throughout PCT. Should have used prami throughout cycle. Don't get me wrong, I look great and have never gotten so many looks from women but if I can't even use my dick what's the use in looking good?

One more thing, I would never touch EQ again. It literally made me feel like I hadn't eaten in weeks all day. I was doing a recomp and I started off at 3500 clean calories. After a meal I felt like I hadn't eaten anything. In the middle of the cycle I just said enough with the recomp and I upped my calories to around 5000 CLEAN calories. I still lost bf and gained a shit ton of muscle. Honest to God, even at 5000 calories I still always felt hungry. My family would watch me eat and literally be disgusted.


I think you'll be ok, just run your pct an extra 2-3 weeks if you don't start feeling recovered
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I think that my clomid may be bunk. I'm 4 1/2 weeks into my PCT and my nuts havent gained any size. I decided to drop my arimidex also. I would like to order more clomid but from a different research company. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm using Research Stops clomid right now.

Research stop is pretty reputable actually, but you can't go wrong with CEM and Extreme peptide. EP is cheaper tho.
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I've been reading about HCG therapy too and a lot of reputable people are saying that anything over 500 IU's a shot will have a big risk of causing permanent leydig cell damage. HeavyIrons PCT protocol calls for 2500 IU's EOD! I don't know which one to believe. I'm hoping that my 1000 IU's EOD for three weeks didn't cause permanent leydig cell damage. It's been almost 5 weeks into my PCT and my testicles are still not growing.
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