Thread: First cycle chart. What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by pieguy

Some people need more than 12.5mg e3d or every other day of .5 adex when running dbol and test. If you notice lethargy set in along with gyno symptoms, up the adex/aromasin dosage.

Exphysiologist was talking about how his e2 shot up like crazy off of I think 40mg dbol and test.

Im going with the EXE you suggested in a different thread, thanks man!

Originally Posted by carmineb

the consencus is first timers go with test alone, you could pyramid the test starting off with 500 a week and at the end, having ramped it up to 1 g a week....

I would consider exemestane, (aromasin), on cycle as an AI inhibitor and hcg to help with shut down, making your pct much easier to handle.

Clomid alone, as I hear can shut down LH from naturally being produced so I would also use something that boosts LH , natural production with it, particularly since you are using full doses of clomid thru the whole pct.

I am working on getting mine set up and running too and it is test all the way... SAVE YOUR TREN for a later cycle.... I know you have it but just save it.... I know you want it all the first time, i am the same way but everyone CANT be wrong, it isnt just concensus, it is unanimous, anyone I talked to about what I want to do, test is enough,.... If you think you have to shred by using winny, I guess maybe you should think about losing some weight now, as I am doing pre cycle, then go for clean mass....

I would NEVER EVER take two methylated products together either, that is a BIG NO from all the experts i have read..... You ALSO want to take a liver protector product if you are taking any methyliated orals.... you dont want the limiting factor in your recovery to be your liver enzyme numbers!

Dont kick start test with dbol or tren! if you want to front load, use a fast acting test like test p with the test e or c you might be using... but again, dont worry about this front loading thing. Get used to your body accepting this new product, test into your system, so waht, it takes 2 weeks to get to levels you want. so run your cycle 14 weeks instead of 12 or 12 instead of 10. Some have suggested test ought to be run 14-18 weeks so you are and would be within range...

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Bro, Tren is so strong and this being your 1st cycle as others have stated would not benefit your health. You need to see how your body is going to react to test alone alone with your AI, building up to the ability to use tren on cycle. You are very young, good height and weight for a test only cycle and believe you will see great gains from it alone. Just remember to be thick skin around the other Rhino's in here. They are all on cycle and full of TEST!!!