First Cycle and PCT
All you need to know bro. Do not use tren for a first cycle.

Peace Everybody, im 33 5,10''205 i w/o 5 days wk, looking to tighten up, i have been wanting to get some extra help. i was told straight Test for a couple wks then mix in tren & winstrol. i would like to hear some good feedback. im not looking to be heavier just a nice tune up! all feedback is appreciated. dont beat me up too bad yall! Peace


First Cycle and PCT
All you need to know bro. Do not use tren for a first cycle.
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thanks for the info but whats the reasoning for not taking it? to harsh? b/c i was told to stack test with tren or winstrol? im just trying to get info...


Tren is not for novice users and especially first time users. Yes, it is harsh, but also comes with a myriad of possible side effects. For your first cycle, you DO NOT want to be combating both estrogen sides and prolactin sides. There are also additional ancilliaries you have to run with Tren that have negative sides.
Your first cycle should be test only for 10-12 weeks, and you can run Winstrol for the last 6 weeks to harden up, if your BF% is low enough. You will also want to run an AI on cycle and PCT. Read the sticky that Vibrant posted above, and that will explain everything in detail. After you have done that, then post your questions.

Agreed. I think you will be surprised at what just test will do for you anyways. No need to be complex with a first cycle.
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GMO stated it perfectly!
hey bro,
Hope you like the board.
If you havent used gear before then dont use tren. testosterone is all ya need bro, and maybe an oral.
All the best bro.

Wow i appreciate the help and honesty, alot of people give weak ''go ahead'' advice....


Listen to this advice. Test is all you need, don't underestimate the results possible. I run blasts of test only all year and maintain most results without much effort, been doing it for years and it meets my goals. Very common mistake by first time guys is to not listen to experienced vets. Keep it simple.
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