Thread: Dorian Yates- Steroids Setting the Record Straight article about steroid use

TOTALLY true. Genetics are a huge factor as well

I think it is very easy for a guy like Dorian to list a very moderate cycle years after he left competition and say this is what he was running. I agree that if you have top notch gear a little goes a long way, but I've watched video of this guy doing incline BB presses for reps with 405 like it was nothing. For most pro's to list all the shit they pump into their systems would in a way diminish their reputation a bit as well as the ora around him.

Originally Posted by Holy Cannoli

I believe Dorian, Hell I wasnt there to say otherwise. Plus Lee Priest has said in many of his rants, that some of his best gains were when he was cruising on 250mg a week on sust. I have seen some of Dorians workouts and they were insane. Shit I tried to do Branch Warren's Leg workout(Reps and sets not wait) I couldnt walk for 2weeks. I can see the Primo in Dorian now that you said that, look at his pics he looks like somebody chiseled him out of the rock of gibralta. Great Article Bro appreciate the read. Believe him or not the man has held the Highest title in the world from my stand point

I think Lee is great but he's said he never used test (I have plenty) and never used GH, only 400mg a week of deca. So sadly, I think there is some bullshit still present.

IMO TOP pros are all genetic freaks on LOTS of gear, with absurd dedication and work ethic. No one gets to the top without all the pieces of the puzzle, and the drugs are a huge piece.

Originally Posted by Mike Arnold

I hope this was a joke.

If this isn't a joke u need some serious help. If pros didnt have amazing genetics and all it took was a shit load of gear everyone would be pros. Wow

And the reason most pros aren't going to come out and say dosages is because a ton of newbs would be running around using 3gs test and a gram of tren a week and end up with huge tits and fucked up health, then blaming the pros for there fuck ups

I don't know how anyone could doubt that, plenty of people are dedicated and take gear, they may make top NPC ranks even but without PRO genetics you will never reach elite levels. The very top of EVERY sport is made up of genetic freaks, I strongly believe science will continue to support this fact. The difference between GOOD and BEST is not that far, only those with every advantage squeak by that extra little bit and become the BEST. I believe that 100%, look at the absolute best in the world at anything and I guarantee they have genetic advantages working for them that make them just a little better suited to their chosen sport. Every sport requires different things of course but almost everything is genetic IMO, even your level of dedication, the amount you are willing to push yourself, how much food can you eat/process, how fast can you grow and not destroy your tendons, how do you respond to AAS/GH/SLIN etc., are you prone to injuries? Do you have a little less myostatin than you should? Produce ATP more efficiently than most? Maybe you respond better to insulin than you should and have loads of natural GH receptors. etc. etc. there are soo many factors and plenty of people lift and take gear, but they don't have the genetics to be pros. Only the lucky few who have it ALL reach the very top, everyone else will have to be happy with being "pretty good". And in this sport having all the pieces means using lots of hormones as well, just my .02