Thread: Monkeys Tren cycle!

Intermediate user. 200 lbs, 10th cycle. Mid 20"s, bench 315 x 8 reps, squat 400, deadlift 585, never used tren. Not gyno sensitive

Adex is not recommended to prevent progesterone related gyno. Caber or prami are.

What about letro or aromasin?

Adex is for estrogen, caber is for progesterone. So yes you should at least have some on hand in case you get gyno. I dont understand why you taper down in week 10? No AI during PCT? No HCG while running tren (or throughout the whole cycle)?

Originally Posted by OfficerFarva

Adex is for estrogen, caber is for progesterone. So yes you should at least have some on hand in case you get gyno. I dont understand why you taper down in week 10? No AI during PCT? No HCG while running tren (or throughout the whole cycle)?

Man, my shit is totally backwards then . Can you edit it and let me know what it should look like?

Like O.F. said, don't taper down. Run test two weeks beyond the tren. Use caber along with adex during cycle. You can add HCG into that 2 week block following your last dose of test.

Continue the adex through pct.

Edit: this would extend the cycle by two weeks for the test during weeks 11 and 12.

I don't know what your goals are with this cycle, it looks like mass though. I'd do something like this

1-12 750mg test e
1-6 50mg/day dbol
7-14 50mg/day tren ace

1-14 500mg/week HCG
1-14 12.5mg/day Exemestane
6-14 Caber (look up a dosing protocol)

PCT:

100/100/100/50 Clomid
25mg/25mg/25mg/12.5mg Aromasin
3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses
10g creatine daily


A setup like this would be a lot better for you. You can use your adex on cycle but use aromasin during PCT.


You should use prop instead of the test. E.. Pin the test p/tren a every day for 10 weeks and you'll know.

Originally Posted by OfficerFarva

1-12 750mg test e
1-6 50mg/day dbol
7-14 50mg/day tren ace

1-14 500mg/week HCG
1-14 12.5mg/day Exemestane
6-14 Caber (look up a dosing protocol)

PCT:

100/100/100/50 Clomid
25mg/25mg/25mg/12.5mg Aromasin
3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses
10g creatine daily
.

I like this, except for me, I would do d bol for 1-4 only, then start the tren around week 7 or 8. Give the liver a break. Otherwise, I like it. Caber, play with the dose at first. Lots of guys do .5 mg twice a week. Start out with .2 at first to see how you react.

Even though I believe that you've been given good advice, I'd do things way differently.

First of, I would never use caber unless I needed to.

Secondly, there is no way I'd run that much test with tren. I always run more tren than test. Trust me when I tell you that the old way of thinking is what's given tren a bad rap to many. I'd run about 262.5 of test P with a higher dose of Tren A.

And finally, I'd not use an AI during PCT.

Either way, you're in for a hell of a ride! This cycle should be pretty fun no matter which route you choose. Enjoy it brother!

Originally Posted by colorado

Even though I believe that you've been given good advice, I'd do things way differently.

First of, I would never use caber unless I needed to.

Secondly, there is no way I'd run that much test with tren. I always run more tren than test. Trust me when I tell you that the old way of thinking is what's given tren a bad rap to many. I'd run about 262.5 of test P with a higher dose of Tren A.

And finally, I'd not use an AI during PCT.

Either way, you're in for a hell of a ride! This cycle should be pretty fun no matter which route you choose. Enjoy it brother!

Err what? Are you serious? Do you want gyno during PCT? If anything, you can get away with not running an AI on cycle and wait till you get sides...

Originally Posted by pieguy

Err what? Are you serious? Do you want gyno during PCT? If anything, you can get away with not running an AI on cycle and wait till you get sides...

No, I don't want any kind of estrogen rebound during PCT. During PCT you should be on the downside of your high test. AI could cause a rebound effect and bounce your estrogen too high. I'd stop my AI right before I start my pct.

And no, you won't get gyno if you have low estro.

If you use aromasin, how are you going to be experiencing any kind of rebound? I mean adex or letro, yeah i can see not being as useful. I understand why you recommend the lack of AI, cause you're running such a low dose of test, but it doesn't seem like everybody is in the same boat of "low dose test will not cause me estrogen related sides" at around 270 mg weekly. I bet a lot of people can get away with it though. I just worry about lethargy/libido loss.

would not hurt to have caber or bromo or prami on hand. Most get sided from one or the other or all so not used until needed for the most part. A strong AI will help prevent progestin induced gyno as estrogen is needed in the process. If estrogen is maintained in normal range gyno is not as likely even with a steroid with progestogenic activity like nandrolones or trenbolones. Still, it is a good idea to have the D2 agonist on hand.

Originally Posted by pieguy

If you use aromasin, how are you going to be experiencing any kind of rebound? I mean adex or letro, yeah i can see not being as useful. I understand why you recommend the lack of AI, cause you're running such a low dose of test, but it doesn't seem like everybody is in the same boat of "low dose test will not cause me estrogen related sides" at around 270 mg weekly. I bet a lot of people can get away with it though. I just worry about lethargy/libido loss.

I respect what you are saying and it sounds like you speak for experience.
However, I want my body to learn how to readjust to its self while pct. Any type of blocker or suicide inhibitor isn't natural to my body. I agree, not everyone is the same while on test. But I believe that 270mg/wk of test will not cause bloating or estro related issues in an average, healthy adult male.

I can only speak from experience. No AI during PCT. You should be well within safe test levels when you start PCT anyways.
No caber unless you absolutely need it.
Lower test than tren.

All of this will equal a happy cycle.

Originally Posted by OfficerFarva

I don't know what your goals are with this cycle, it looks like mass though. I'd do something like this

1-12 750mg test e
1-6 50mg/day dbol
7-14 50mg/day tren ace

1-14 500mg/week HCG
1-14 12.5mg/day Exemestane
6-14 Caber (look up a dosing protocol)

PCT:

100/100/100/50 Clomid
25mg/25mg/25mg/12.5mg Aromasin
3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses
10g creatine daily

I agree with this.

The HCG is in iu's though not mg so don't get confused. I would do the HCG at 500iu 2x per week. And also, the caber should be at .5mg E3D.

Pretty standard. I think you can start adjusting the levels after you know what these compounds do. I believe that it's best to do it this way first and then go from there. I might kickstart that bitch with some prop and save the dbol for around week 4 but that's just what I like to do.