A powerful but simple stack

**heckler7** · 09-19-2011, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by .V.

Heckler7

For test, an anti e and having a SERM on hand is a good idea.

For tren, which in the interest of full disclosure, I've never used and only know this as a medical person and from more than a few days of working with those who have and do use it... a prolactin inhibiter like prami, bromo, or caber is good to have on hand.

If you have BP issues, my suggestion would be to stop use when it get's too high like I used to do when I'd use some drol. However one MD friend of mine who blasts and cruises actually just takes NOS supplements to control his BP...and it works. I was a bit surprised to learn that.

Plain test and tren certainly sounds like the best option for adding muscle. But for me, being a triathlete, my cardio capacity would suffer too much so I can't risk it. And no one can tell me what a test, Eq, tren cycle did for them. I'm too chickenshit to be the first.

I bought a blood pressure meter and check my pressure all the time on my last cycle and didnt have any issues. But I heard of people ending up in the ER from high blood pressure so I wanted to keep an eye on it. I frequent other boards and on one in particular the guys go crazy adding all sorts of things. This forum is more hardcore than most and I never see anyone talk about the supps. was just curious.

**heckler7** · 09-19-2011, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I use Advanced Cycle Support every day of the year. I'm a big believer in anti-oxidants.

IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Advanced Cycle Support

I use it only on cycle but was starting to think I may be wasting my cash since I never hear anyone else say they use it.

**theCaptn'** · 09-19-2011, 06:19 AM

bulking - test + tren (+ dbol)

cutting - test + tren (+var)

Tren cant be beat!

**Chrisotpherm** · 09-19-2011, 06:25 AM

This a really good post. It would be awesome if this could be made into a sticky for members. I am for sure going to reference back to this the next time I use tren. Great post from seasoned members, people would be a fool not to take any of the advice in here!

V/R
Chris

**suprfast** · 09-19-2011, 10:43 PM

subbed. Heavy has great info. Already planning for number 2 even though I haven't started my first.

**goldsgymdude** · 09-22-2011, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I'm convinced there's almost no other traditional injectable stack that's as potent and versatile as Testosterone and Trenbolone. It's a simple stack with enormous potential to harden muscle, promote fat loss and add raw strength. Over the years I have tried just about every combination of steroids from very elaborate to very simple stacks. Since many times guys are on a budget I decided to present a basic simple stack that is cost effective and will illicit terrific changes to a physique. Testosterone is a great base to all cycles. It increases mood, energy and libido while giving good performance in the gym. However, sometimes guys want that extra edge in reaching their goals. Instead of taking various peptides, orals or other injectable combinations one of the most simple things to do is add Trenbolone to your Testosterone base. This powerful but simple stack may be used to cut, bulk, add raw strength or recomp.

Depending on the goal, various dosing schemes may be employed but for me the most basic is 600-750mg Testosterone weekly with 225-350mg Trenbolone weekly. In just 8 short weeks this cycle will provide great results if nutrition, training and recovery is dialed in.

Sometimes it's best to keep things simple...heavyiron

Love the idea....whatta ya think of a tren-EQ only cycle?

**dollarbill** · 09-22-2011, 07:15 PM

do you need to pin everyday? or eod? with test prop and tren a?

**John Connor** · 09-22-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by dollarbill

do you need to pin everyday? or eod? with test prop and tren a?

I prefer every day but I have gone eod and even 3 times per week and gains were profound. I think the serious athlete should inject daily but the regular gym rat that wants to look good could inject less frequently.

**sambaga** · 09-22-2011, 08:02 PM

Tried my own brew of tren ace and test enth. last year ,and i can say with certainty nothing has or will compare to the monsterous gains.On a dollar for dollar basis nothing comes close.However i fell into a lenghty depression, and beleave it or not i actually got much bigger and denser than i really wanted.And i was takeing fairly low dose.It was a little bit of a strain.Has anyone tried the hybrid cut stacks with the test prop ,tren ace, and masteron.I might use that as my next cycle.

**John Connor** · 09-22-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by sambaga

Tried my own brew of tren ace and test enth. last year ,and i can say with certainty nothing has or will compare to the monsterous gains.On a dollar for dollar basis nothing comes close.However i fell into a lenghty depression, and beleave it or not i actually got much bigger and denser than i really wanted.And i was takeing fairly low dose.It was a little bit of a strain.Has anyone tried the hybrid cut stacks with the test prop ,tren ace, and masteron.I might use that as my next cycle.

Prop, tren ace and mast are an amazing blend. I am actually using that particular stack right now. I have used it before and it worked very well. Mast seems to really raise my sex drive but so does tren and test. It is a great way to cut and feel good at the same time.

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