Thread: Dbol at the end?

frontloading with dbol is a good method, backloading i see no point.

Upping your dose or adding a compound at the end is good because it helps overcome rising levels of myostatin. You'll put on some water at the end with the dbol, but it'll come off during pct.

There are better options to end with IMO. Look into Super DMZ or a little drier. I had good luck ending with winny on my first cycle.


Plus it makes it feel like you don't have 2 weeks of downtime while you wait for the ester to clear.


Halo Extreme might be another good one to check out.

I like using Dbol at the end of a bulk for example I may throw it in to my current cycle because I am winding down toward the end of my test and deca cycle and gains are slowing somewhat so since I am bulking I want to add some extra mass. I was thinking about anadrol but it may increase the chance of Prolactin based Gyno to flare since I have been running Deca without a prolactin antagonist at a somewhat low dose. So my advice is if you are bulking and this is not your first cycle you can add dbol at the end. Dbol works great at the begining for a kickstart. IF you are going for leaner gains do as Sloppy J suggested and look into a SuperDMZ, or Turinabol, Anavar, Halo Extreme , or Cyanostane Rx to harden up at the end and lean mass.

I was thinking of halodrol or super dmz but I am about 6 weeks into the cycle I mentioned above..I already had the dbol on hand but I also have Winny. But this cycle was more of a bulk so that's why I was considering dbol over the winny

I'd go with the Dianabol in that situation.

Originally Posted by tgb1987

i'd go with the dianabol in that situation.

+1

Dbol it is! Since I ran it the first few weeks do you guys think it will have much less effect at the end?

Should have an increased effect considering you have the test built up in your system. If you think pumps with dbol are good wait for dbol with the pumps you experience at the end of a cycle.

I'm pretty pumped. Alot of people said it's depressing going into pct from dbol because of the weight loss but since it's water weight I won't mind

Yeah you might not fill out your clothes quite as well after dropping some water but you'll definitely look better with your shirt off. I swear I looked bigger after my four week dbol kickstart than I did by the end of the cycle lol , maybe just because the change was so rapid I noticed it more though

Dbol is an amazing compound that can cause rapid growth of muscle and increases in strength. Hard to not like that lol.

Originally Posted by EATSCHILDREN

Should have an increased effect considering you have the test built up in your system. If you think pumps with dbol are good wait for dbol with the pumps you experience at the end of a cycle.

^^^This

The synergy of d-bol and test is amazing. I always recommend running it in weeks 5+ to take advantage of this. Prop is a much better kickstart...

Originally Posted by GMO

The synergy of d-bol and test is amazing. I always recommend running it in weeks 5+ to take advantage of this. Prop is a much better kickstart...

^^^^
This!

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Dbol is an amazing compound that can cause rapid growth of muscle and increases in strength. Hard to not like that lol.

Seriously, and the pumps are unreal! Pretty sure I got some new stretchmarks just from how tight my skin was after every workout lol

Dbol left me in so much pain after tire flips and deadlifting. Shit's amazing for str gains though

Yeah I'm convinced. I didn't really get much synergy because I stopped dbol early cause of gyno but I'm gonna run letro at .5mg eod with dbol at the end to make sure it doesn't flare up. I am currently on aromasin and nolva and that has done the job but I'm almost out of aromasin so I'll just run letro. Sound good?

not to hijack the thread, but could dbol be ran for say 6 weeks? what is the longest you guys have run it for? Im on week 7 of a 14 week cycle and was planning on starting the dbol on week 10 but if i can start it next week that would be awesome.

Originally Posted by tyzero89

not to hijack the thread, but could dbol be ran for say 6 weeks? what is the longest you guys have run it for? Im on week 7 of a 14 week cycle and was planning on starting the dbol on week 10 but if i can start it next week that would be awesome.

Yes, I always recommend runs of 6 weeks with d-bol. After six weeks though, gains tend to taper off.

Originally Posted by Jt123

Yeah I'm convinced. I didn't really get much synergy because I stopped dbol early cause of gyno but I'm gonna run letro at .5mg eod with dbol at the end to make sure it doesn't flare up. I am currently on aromasin and nolva and that has done the job but I'm almost out of aromasin so I'll just run letro. Sound good?

Get more Aromasin. Letro almost always causes estro rebound if Aromasin is not used as part of the protocol.

Run the aromasin with 10mg of Nolva ED, and you shouldn't have any gyno issues. I get gyno with d-bol and test as well, and that is what I do.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Seriously, and the pumps are unreal! Pretty sure I got some new stretchmarks just from how tight my skin was after every workout lol

Haha, life is good, life on test and dbol is greater

Originally Posted by GMO

^^^This

The synergy of d-bol and test is amazing. I always recommend running it in weeks 5+ to take advantage of this. Prop is a much better kickstart...

This intrigues me.
How would you set up a 10 (or 12 if its better) week cycle of test e 500mg/wk, with a test prop kick start and dbol at the end.

Wk 1-12 Test E 500mg-750mg
Wk 1-4 Test Prop 75-100mg eod
Wk 8-13 D-bol 30-50mg ED (This will also combat the increased myostatin levels that occur)
Wk 1-13 Aromasin 12.5mg-25mg ED
Wk 1-12 hcg 250-500iu 2x/wk

(Doses dependent upon individual)

PCT

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Originally Posted by GMO

Wk 1-12 Test E 500mg-750mg
Wk 1-4 Test Prop 75-100mg eod
Wk 8-13 D-bol 30-50mg ED (This will also combat the increased myostatin levels that occur)
Wk 1-13 Aromasin 12.5mg-25mg ED
Wk 1-12 hcg 250-500iu 2x/wk

(Doses dependent upon individual)

PCT

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

That looks VERY tempting. TY.
One quick question. You would stop the hcg at week 12 and not week 14 with the above plan?

Originally Posted by GMO

Yes, I always recommend runs of 6 weeks with d-bol. After six weeks though, gains tend to taper off.



Get more Aromasin. Letro almost always causes estro rebound if Aromasin is not used as part of the protocol.

Run the aromasin with 10mg of Nolva ED, and you shouldn't have any gyno issues. I get gyno with d-bol and test as well, and that is what I do.

I'm almost out of aromasin tabs and was gonna order more from a research site but they have been out of stock lately, I've run letro before but I shouldn't get rebound from such a low dose and even if i do get rebound I would start nolva and clomid for pct right after. Wouldn't that help with rebound?

It won't stop the rebound, but it'll prevent you from getting gyno from it

Isn't that what you want to prevent from rebound?

Yeah afaik that's the only real issue, just clarifying that it won't actually prevent a rise in estrogen just the worst side effects

btw formestane is also a suicidal AI, you can get forma stanzol if you choose to go that route

Originally Posted by Dyers Eve

That looks VERY tempting. TY.
One quick question. You would stop the hcg at week 12 and not week 14 with the above plan?

Yes, I stop after my last shot of test, and then usually blast 1000iu eod while the test clears.