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    Red face My steroid cycle

    Hello,
    I will we starting this cycle shortly:
    #1-80 days sustanon 250 mg EOD and this is my first cycle
    #PCT starts at 100th day: clomid/Nolva pct
    #AI on hand if got gyno/bloat problems
    #I will be eating around 4000 cals 40/40/20 divided into 5 meals
    #my goal is to gain lean at least 20 LBS of muscle.
    #training 4x week
    ## I have 2 years of training experience
    Thanks .

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    What's your question? And if you have one, include your stats.



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    hmm

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorZ06 View Post
    What's your question? And if you have one, include your stats.



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    is this cycle ok? for a newbie?

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    is there a reason you chose sus for your first cycle as oppose to test e for example? AI should be used on cycle. it really isnt a just in case for gyno. i like aromasin. and nolva really isnt good for pct, thats what you keep around in case of gyno. aromasin and clomid for pct, imo

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    Actually not a bad set-up.

    Couple of things, test may be a touch high, try 200mg EOD. You'll also need to run your AI from the get go, play with the dose once things are in full swing to access your sensitivity to aromatisation. Dont use Nolva for PCT, just Clomid. Save it for itchy nips.

    Anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat09091974 View Post
    is there a reason you chose sus for your first cycle as oppose to test e for example? AI should be used on cycle. it really isnt a just in case for gyno. i like aromasin. and nolva really isnt good for pct, thats what you keep around in case of gyno. aromasin and clomid for pct, imo
    1. sustanon here is human grade and quite cheap .. its legit 100%
    2. i don't mind pinning me eod,it will kickin earlier
    3.hence no need for orals
    4.i will be using arimidex thro'out the cycle ..i will adjust my dose acc. to need.

    diet is good,hope to add 10kg's into my frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hench View Post
    Actually not a bad set-up.

    Couple of things, test may be a touch high, try 200mg EOD. You'll also need to run your AI from the get go, play with the dose once things are in full swing to access your sensitivity to aromatisation. Dont use Nolva for PCT, just Clomid. Save it for itchy nips.

    Anything else?
    hey,i have ampouls so i will be taking 1 amp eod..i also have 3 vials of tren a 75mg/ml,someone told me to take 75mg/EOD but i m saving it for cutting stack.

    -- ok clomid for pct ---

    -- is 80 days enough to gain 20 LBS? --

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    Sustanon - 0.5 ml EOD
    PCT - Clomid, Arimidex

    1 ml EOD is too much for a first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by teram View Post
    my goal is to gain lean at least 20 LBS of muscle.
    At least 20 lb? lol

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    If it's human grade sust, I would dose it at no more than 150-200mg eod for a first cycle. You will see good gains off that if training and diet are good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by teram View Post
    hey,i have ampouls so i will be taking 1 amp eod..i also have 3 vials of tren a 75mg/ml,someone told me to take 75mg/EOD but i m saving it for cutting stack.

    -- ok clomid for pct ---

    -- is 80 days enough to gain 20 LBS? --
    80 days is an odd number dude, how did you come up with that? I'd just make it a round 12 weeks, that will be plenty of time to achieve your goals.

    I see what you mean about the amps, though you could just crack a few of them open and pre-load the syringes, allowing for a slightly lower dose. Up to you though.

    Yeah defo save the tren, no need for that yet. Run the adex from day 1 and I think you're G2G, your results with obv be dictated by diet and training .

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    20 lbs of muscle is a lot to expect. You should be more realistic. And save the tren for a while until you have had several cycles experience to learn how your body responds to these compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hench View Post
    80 days is an odd number dude, how did you come up with that? I'd just make it a round 12 weeks, that will be plenty of time to achieve your goals.

    I see what you mean about the amps, though you could just crack a few of them open and pre-load the syringes, allowing for a slightly lower dose. Up to you though.

    Yeah defo save the tren, no need for that yet. Run the adex from day 1 and I think you're G2G, your results with obv be dictated by diet and training .
    hey bro i have 40 1 ml amps,at eod they will last for 80 days
    thanks guys 4 the comments

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    Monday : Chest+Biceps+Forearms
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    Chest :Training to failure
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    yep,no deadlift or squats because i have recovered from a ligament injury of leg,so light weights and 8x8 training methos

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    Quote Originally Posted by teram View Post
    hey bro i have 40 1 ml amps,at eod they will last for 80 days
    thanks guys 4 the comments
    Lower the dose and run it for 12 weeks, or stretch it out to 14 if you really want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hench View Post
    Lower the dose and run it for 12 weeks, or stretch it out to 14 if you really want.
    80 days - almost 12 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by teram View Post
    80 days - almost 12 weeks
    You're focusing on the wrong part of my post, lower the dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hench View Post
    You're focusing on the wrong part of my post, lower the dose.
    hEY Bro,should i switch to test p 100 mg/EOD idon't mind pinning

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