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    HCG needed for all cycles???

    Starting a testE and Dbol cycle shortly.

    500mg a week for 12 weeks
    30-40mg a day for 4 weeks

    I have my PCT and OCT planned out but was wondering if HCG is absolutely needed with this cycle.
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    Not needed but will make pct a lot easier.
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    If you don't want a limp dick for 3 weeks..it's a good idea

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    take take 500iu every week or you could blast at the end. 500iu (could go higher) for 7 day's and see how your nut's are looking. If look good proceed w/ SERM.

    I would do the low dose while on cycle and blast for a week or two at the end then procced w/ SERM for 6 weeks since you got DBOL in there.

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    im not running hcg and im doing 4 weeks dmz and test e 500 a week also wil be running my next cycle test e 5oomg a week and 6 weeks dbol

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    If you don't mind having your balls turn to the size of peas, than it isn't a must have. I on the other hand like to have my balls stay the same size at all times....so I use it at 500iu EW starting week two. Not during PCT.



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    I like my balls, 1000iu EW week 1 - the end

    never hurts bro

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    ya my balls like 1ooo iu a week to

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    I totally agree I want my balls! And it does make recovery much easier. I use it on cycle at 500iu/wk and yes either on cycle or after not both. You don't want to overdue hcg ,you can kill your leydeg cells.

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    250iu's twice a week or 500iu's once a week on cycle ok for my cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage racing View Post
    250iu's twice a week or 500iu's once a week on cycle ok for my cycle?

    Depends on the individual....in my case 500iu a week gets the job done (250iu 2X a week). Others need 1000iu EW....I don't think I've heard of anyone needing more than 1k a week. I'd start with 500iu, if you notice any atrophy...bump the dose up. You want to use just enough for it to work right. IMHO!



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    I'm still a beginner, can you give me advice
    whether look good when I use a cycle like this?
    week 1 - 12 = 500mg sustanon / week
    week 8 - 12 = 1000iu hcg / week
    week 15 - 17 = sustain aplha
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    ^^start the hcg in week 1 or week 2 and take it for the duration of the cycle (11 or 12wks) @ 500iu per wk or more as needed

    Don't wait until the 8th weeks to start the hcg while your on
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    You want to use just enough to stave off testicular atrophy. 500iu would be the starting point. It should be used every 3 or 4 days so... if you pin the test e/c twice a week you could pin the hcg at 250iu the day before you pin the test. Thats how I use it. I don't understand why but it really seemed to intensify the cycle somewhat. Maybe just my imagination. And if you need to you can adjust up to 500iu twice a week. I would not go over 1000iu per week. You must be careful with HCG !

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
    I like my balls, 1000iu EW week 1 - the end

    never hurts bro
    True that Twist, I like my balls too.

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    not real attached to the size of my balls, but pct sucks so anything you can do to make it easier is worth it
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    5000ius a week and you can get a good case of elephantitus, great talking point during sex lol. Like prince has said before, if you want your horse to always be the front runner then you need HCG. keep the gun a shooting

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    Wish I would have got some HCG when I ordered. Seems hard to find and really don't want to bother with it now but don't particularly want to be limp for a month lol. Damnit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    not real attached to the size of my balls, but pct sucks so anything you can do to make it easier is worth it
    I agree. Dont really care about the size of my balls but if PCT will be easier than I will do it. Maybe if my balls shrink my dick will look bigger..... Thanks for the insight guys.
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    Hey guys how long can hcg be kept around? Does it have to be kept in the fridge no matter what reconstituted or not? I would like to order a good bit to save on shipping, enough for a few cycles and don't want it going bad on me....

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill450 View Post
    Hey guys how long can hcg be kept around? Does it have to be kept in the fridge no matter what reconstituted or not? I would like to order a good bit to save on shipping, enough for a few cycles and don't want it going bad on me....

    Thanks in advance
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    Thanks victor but should I just refrigerate all of it whether I have it mixed or not? Plan to start a cycle after christmas sometime once my bf is ideal. Just wanting to get everything in order before hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill450 View Post
    Thanks victor but should I just refrigerate all of it whether I have it mixed or not? Plan to start a cycle after christmas sometime once my bf is ideal. Just wanting to get everything in order before hand.
    This question comes up ALL the time. Keep it in the fridge, mixed or not. When I pick mine up from the pharmacy, they include one of those disposable ice packs in the bag. Besides, the Pregnyl box clearly states that it should be stored between 2-15 degrees Celsius, that's about 35-59 degrees Fahrenheit. Here is a picture of the box...lots of guys don't think it has to be kept in the fridge....but Organon begs to differ.









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    Ok thank you very much Victor, you've been a big help! HCG ordered and will reside in the fridge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill450 View Post
    Ok thank you very much Victor, you've been a big help! HCG ordered and will reside in the fridge!

    Anytime bro.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rage racing View Post
    I agree. Dont really care about the size of my balls but if PCT will be easier than I will do it. Maybe if my balls shrink my dick will look bigger..... Thanks for the insight guys.
    It's not only the size that matter's bud.

    It's that you want to keep your balls somewhat FUNCTIONING throughout your cycle so when you PCT it will be easier to come online. If you didn't PCT it could take up to a year.

    SERMS will get your pituitary back online in 2-3 week's max so that is not a problem. But if you don't use HCG and you let your nut's shut off completely they will be hard to get back online. Getting your nut's working is THE most important part because that is your sex drive.

    So use 500iu 1x per week (if you shoot twice per week just use 250iu when you shoot,or you might need 500iu everytime; depends) while on cycle and after your stuff clear's you can do 500iu EOD for a week then start your SERMS.

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