Thread: frist cycle help

use test e or c. not sust. sust should be pinned eod. imo. everything else looks good id start clomid 2 weeks after last pin.

^^ Yes,

I would refrain from the Sust, unless your going to pin it eod, or at least e3d. I think in your situation you should run a straight estered test,

500mg Test E will do wonders for you brother. Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection Clomid/Aromasin.

I will pin at the eod and I have 30ml of sust on hand i was just waiting for Clomid/Aromasin before i start. I never order Clomid/Aromasin but i will soon so i guess i can get some test e or test c if test sust is not the right way.

I'd try to lower your bf% a little more before you start...and when you do, begin PCT 2 weeks after your last pin, not 3. Also, I'd rather use a different form of test other than sust, as Gym66 pointed out. You can use some sust to front gaining some advantage of the short esters, but I wouldn't bother (prop is best suited for this). Good luck bro.



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Im working on the bf% now. Bc i just going to bulk up the strength will come, but i have 30ml of sust and i dont want it to go to waste, do you thank 1cc twice a week at eod would be ok are just drop it and go with test c or e.

Originally Posted by river rat

Im working on the bf% now. Bc i just going to bulk up the strength will come, but i have 30ml of sust and i dont want it to go to waste, do you thank 1cc twice a week at eod would be ok are just drop it and go with test c or e.

If you have that much sust all ready on hand, I'd use it even though a single ester test would be a better choice. If your sust is dosed at 350mg/ml, 2cc would equal 700mg EW. That's a good dose for sust. But at the same time, this is your first cycle, and 700mg EW might be a bit much to start with. You might want to consider 1/2cc 3X a week (M/W/F)....leaving you with 525mg EW. An EOD or ED plan would be better suited with sust, but you should be OK with a M/W/F schedule. IMHO.



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

If you have that much sust all ready on hand, I'd use it even though a single ester test would be a better choice. If your sust is dosed at 350mg/ml, 2cc would equal 700mg EW. That's a good dose for sust. But at the same time, this is your first cycle, and 700mg EW might be a bit much to start with. You might want to consider 1/2cc 3X a week (M/W/F)....leaving you with 525mg EW. An EOD or ED plan would be better suited with sust, but you should be OK with a M/W/F schedule. IMHO.



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X2, ^This is what I would do if I was you!

Good advice Victor

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

If you have that much sust all ready on hand, I'd use it even though a single ester test would be a better choice. If your sust is dosed at 350mg/ml, 2cc would equal 700mg EW. That's a good dose for sust. But at the same time, this is your first cycle, and 700mg EW might be a bit much to start with. You might want to consider 1/2cc 3X a week (M/W/F)....leaving you with 525mg EW. An EOD or ED plan would be better suited with sust, but you should be OK with a M/W/F schedule. IMHO.



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^^ Some solid advice^^

You shouldn't go over 500 mg/week on your first cycle. Concentrate more on your diet and the time you put in at the gym and the rest will come. Make sure you're getting 8 hours of sleep in a night too <--- very important.

I would suggest .4 ml eod = 490mg/week. You wanna inject sust as often as possible like they stated but for future reference if you're gonna pin eod then test prop is the way to go, or just get test e or test c and pin it every 4 days. But since you have sust on hand eod is what you wanna do. Also, I would try a milder AI like arimidex @ .25mg eod. You need some estrogen for gains and roughly @500mg/week of test, a-dex will be fine.

Good luck, and happy lifting.