Thread: Limp dick on aas

Not only is this asking for a BIG problem for recovery but tren makes you not sleep and have limp dick. That is why you run test higher

Originally Posted by ZECH

Not only is this asking for a BIG problem for recovery but tren makes you not sleep and have limp dick. That is why you run test higher

Wrong. Too much Test while you're on Tren will give you the problem you describe. I've run extended cycles with 250mg/week Test and very high Tren with ZERO problems recovering. I just run my test cycle out a few weeks longer when I come off the Tren.

Where did I hear this? I heard it by being miserable when I would do conventional Test/Tren cycles. When I opened my mind and ran it the way I do now, Tren became my best friend.

Everything I say about this subject is through the experience of doing it both ways. Most that give advice about Tren have never even run it with a lower dose of Test. They just talk out their ass.

Proof? Look at all of the guys switching over and loving the results.

LOL.....ok if it works for you fine. But for the average person this is totally bad info. I know MANY vets and pros and they all run test higher.

Ive been reading a lot recently about many people saying that they felt better running tren higher than test, and that having to run test higher is just a myth.

I think most people who say you need to run test higher than tren probably havent even tried it the other way.

my next cycle will include tren, and Im going to try it higher than test and see how it goes.

Tren makes me jack off like 3x a day, lower your test and you should be a rock all day.

However my buddy was on mast, but not tren and he could not get it up. He upped his test and has no more issues.

I would honestly blame the aromasin man. AI's and SERMs destroy my ability to perform. 25 ed is a high dose too.

As for the tren and test thing everyone's different. One friend of mine runs 100mg ed tren with nothing else all the time. Said he experiences no sides except excessive hairyness and sexdrive is amazing. Another friend of mine did test+tren 2:1 and had no sex drive no appetite felt like shit. Hasn't touched tren since. Experiment, know your body.

Originally Posted by ZECH

Say what? Coventional wisdom always has test around 2:1. You could run tren a little higher I think, but I would not run tren higher than test if it was me.

Conventional wisdom is wrong in this case.

Original advice is from Old School Lifter. Try it like I did

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Conventional wisdom is wrong in this case.

Original advice is from Old School Lifter. Try it like I did

Further to this, conventional wisdom is true for deca. But for tren, definitely less sides when I lowered the test level.

I cannot comment on shutdown, I've been cruise and blasting for over 18 months... I don't plan on coming off

please tell what was oSL ADIVCE/

I dont have any experience with Tren, but I have tried Deca, which is a 19-nortestosterone just like Tren, and I think its well known that with both of these compounds, a proactin suppressant like Caber or Bromo needs to be taken on cycle.

It does suck that most of the info we have on the forums on these drugs are from wisdom, like others have said. During my Test/Deca/Dbol cycle (8 weeks in) I ran caber only 1 time a week, at .5mg, and here is what my Prolactin did;



Shit, it almost dropped to below average range! lol. But of course, this is me, could be different for someone else.

So really, if you REALLY want to know how something effects you, you need to get bloodwork done. GymRat4Life has a great sticky on how to get it cheep;

Cheap Bloodwork - How to Get It WITHOUT Insurance

Dont get me wrong, theres guys on here who've been cycling longer than I've been touching weights. And experience is one of the best things you can have. Just do your research, and stay safe.

Originally Posted by Calves of Steel

As for the tren and test thing everyone's different. One friend of mine runs 100mg ed tren with nothing else all the time. Said he experiences no sides except excessive hairyness and sexdrive is amazing. Another friend of mine did test+tren 2:1 and had no sex drive no appetite felt like shit. Hasn't touched tren since. Experiment, know your body.

I think this is good advice. You can give general advice but eveyone is different. If you react different than normal, then change it up.

Originally Posted by Chino0823

please tell what was oSL ADIVCE/

this is directly quoted from oldschool, Im sure he wont mind. It worked for me exactly as described:

For a recomp, If you can utilize more of the tren in your body rather than the cyp, you will recomp faster, and so far for me, and the others, you will experience little to no sides.

Seems you are not sensitive to tren like most, and Ideally you would be a strong canadite to run this protocol.

Your body only has a limited amount of androgenic receptors, when their being full with Test, the tren that is not used, freely circulates causing more side effects, and the more well known " Tren Dick "

Flip the dose, and utilize the tren, now your rolling. And your test is well above maintenance at 400 to to counter an ill 19 nor affects.

This method however does not work with nandrolone, and imo nandrolone is not strong enough to want to utilize like we are with the tren..

Sides I normally get when running test higher, is elevated blood pressure, insomnia, loss of appetite, and believe it or not sometimes loss of libido.

Since I have reversed the dosage, the gains have been 3x more pronounced from a recomp point of view, and the only sides I am battling is some sweating, and of course some aggression.

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

You're running test too high. Tren should always be run higher than test.

Ive run test 400/wk tren 525 to 700/wk with nothing but wood.

Trust theCaptn' on this bro

I'm running 600mg of Tren a week and 300mg of Test Cyp a week and just had sex with my lady 5 times today! Been on this cycle for 6 weeks, 2 more weeks to go! OSL did in fact recommend doing this cycle this way, been great!

Originally Posted by Mr.BIG

I'm running 600mg of Tren a week and 300mg of Test Cyp a week and just had sex with my lady 5 times today! Been on this cycle for 6 weeks, 2 more weeks to go! OSL did in fact recommend doing this cycle this way, been great!

Woot hell yeah! Love to hear it brother!

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

this is directly quoted from oldschool, Im sure he wont mind. It worked for me exactly as described:

No problem at all, its not for everyone you need to know how you react first, but Zech try it once brother


Edit: also I didn't invent this method just from seing and trying and reading this positive outcome has proved time and time again, and I preach it for guys to try at least once

Chino, this does sound like low Estro! I know when my estro gets low, my joints ache and I lose my sex drive!

Captain thanks am going to give that a try! Good knowekge their!! Smart dude he is!

Originally Posted by Mr.BIG

Chino, this does sound like low Estro! I know when my estro gets low, my joints ache and I lose my sex drive!

I think so I stop my AI should I count? At 12.5? Would the AI be lowering it?

Originally Posted by Chino0823

I think so I stop my AI should I count? At 12.5? Would the AI be lowering it?

I would run it at 12.5 everyday, if you still feel the same after a week or so run it at 12.5 every other day!

Bet will do thanks!