Cutting cycle redux

**Standard Donkey** · 10-09-2011, 11:16 PM

I apologize for my combative behavior in the previous thread. Anyways here is my redone cutting cycle. Please refer to my previous thread for my stats and cycle history.

Weeks 1-10
Test prop 30mg ed
Tren ace 100mg ed
Caber .5mg 2x a week
Adex .25mg 2x a week

Weeks 1-8 masteron E 500mg 2x a week

t3 4 weeks (6-9) ramp up to 100 mcg ed then back down

Pct nolva 40/40/20/20/20

Suggestions welcome

**LightBearer** · 10-09-2011, 11:50 PM

clomid does a better job at recovery than nolva

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 12:01 AM

Really? William L. Claimed that nolva is superior (not sure if he is respected on these forums). Regardless, clomid makes me unstable..

Good lookin' out tho bro I appreciate it. I might consider clomid + aromasin

**Night_Wolf** · 10-10-2011, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by LightBearer

clomid does a better job at recovery than nolva

This.

Clomid + Aromasin would be perfect.

**theCaptn'** · 10-10-2011, 03:38 AM

I like the cycle, test dosage may be a little too light for my liking, consider 50mg ED.

Note T3 is may target muscle or fat. You probably don't need it running that much tren. Clen may be an option to consider, I would add it to your PCT for the mild anabolic effect.

Hope you log this cycle!

**SFW** · 10-10-2011, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

Really? William L. Claimed that nolva is superior (not sure if he is respected on these forums). Regardless, clomid makes me unstable..

Good lookin' out tho bro I appreciate it. I might consider clomid + aromasin

The only fag who keeps touting nolvas superiority and simultaneously sucking off William L, is a certain unjerked mod who coincidentally, is a rep/sponsor to a shitty research chem company. And said shitty company is probably having a sale on nolva, so suddenly nolva is the holy grail. Fuck him. Oh and fuck pct too

**juiceball44** · 10-10-2011, 07:50 AM

Lol calm down bro

**gym66** · 10-10-2011, 07:56 AM

nolva up regulates prolactin receptors. not a good idea with tren

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

I like the cycle, test dosage may be a little too light for my liking, consider 50mg ED.

Note T3 is may target muscle or fat. You probably don't need it running that much tren. Clen may be an option to consider, I would add it to your PCT for the mild anabolic effect.

Hope you log this cycle!

I honestly doubt that clen has the slightest anabolic capacity at the dosages humans take. People often cite the studies conducted on rats as proof, but I think we all know thats unreliable.

If u have evidence supporting the contrary please post it.

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by gym66

nolva up regulates prolactin receptors. not a good idea with tren

I would never use nolva during a tren cycle.

Good lookin out tho

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 09:17 AM

Im really excited for the 1g of masteron a week.. Hear its incredible

To up the intensity even further, im considering adding methyltrienolone for 3-4 weeks...need some oral why not go with an insane one right?

Im going to have no hair by the end of this lol..

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 01:15 PM

Bumping for more input

**pieguy** · 10-10-2011, 01:31 PM

You're using 700g of tren and 1g of mast per week to cut? Yeah, that sounds a bit overboard...

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by pieguy

You're using 700g of tren and 1g of mast per week to cut? Yeah, that sounds a bit overboard...

Care to elaborate?

**pieguy** · 10-10-2011, 02:14 PM

What are you planning to accomplish out of this cycle? Are you going to be competing in a show that requires the vascularity and hardening effects of your extremely high masteron and tren dosage? Most of the guys on this board run their tren at around 350-700mg weekly and their mast less or equal to their tren. They also run higher test dosages.

It doesn't seem like you're understanding the point of your cycle or you haven't explained your reasoning. It seems like you're just assuming more is better and trying to inject as much as possible. You're going to see the recomp effect/hardening/vascularity increases of tren/test/mast at a dosage of even 350/350/350 or 500/500/500 with slight variations on ratios. Don't think you need much higher for a simple cut.

I just looked up your stats. 5'9" @ 200lbs and 12% @ 21years old. I doubt 200/700/1000 is a good dosing protocol (cause nobody i've ever seen doses it like that), but maybe somebody who you haven't pissed off might comment.

**Hench** · 10-10-2011, 02:23 PM

^This.

Good post.

**Vibrant** · 10-10-2011, 03:04 PM

I've never heard of anyone running mast higher than they're running test/tren. I've heard of running tren higher than test but not mast. Do you have a reason for wanting to run mast that high?
more is not always better.

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 03:31 PM

I have no competitipn im preparing for,.i just figured why not.

I know a few guys who have done stuff like this, both with gpod results.

Hell.. I know a guy whp took 800mg mast prop a week with 10mg dbol ed for the estrogen.. Talk about experimental.

My age isnt relevent, if my hpta were to be messed up ill blast and cruise.. I got plenty of swimmers frozen so idc if I become sterile.

Im not your typical 21 year old.. No alcohol since 16.. Ive only drank twice in my life never smoked weed.. Etc I see guys here who drink and cycle or drink while cycling.. And they give advice.. Makes me lol.

When u add up the totals of the gear, it isnt even 2 grams.

Im running masteron this high because I do not feel it is being accurately represented in the aas world.

Who knows I might do some shows for the experience or try to get into modeling.. Im studying to be an accountant so im not trying to make this my financial futire.

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 03:33 PM

No one has ever seen it before, so ill be sure to log it for you guys. Might create a whole new method of dosing who knows.

**obeymyarm** · 10-10-2011, 03:48 PM

thats right never know to you try it hook it up brother....

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 03:50 PM

Ive decided to raise the test prop to 500mg a week. Total is 2.2 grams

Mondays and wednesdays are going to be a bitch

**gym66** · 10-10-2011, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

I would never use nolva during a tren cycle.

Good lookin out tho

ok then you should revise your 1st post to what your pct is going to be

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by gym66

ok then you should revise your 1st post to what your pct is going to be

how long do my progesterone/prolactin levels remain elevated after finishing the tren? Also, in the presence of low estrogen.. You dont get gyno from prolactin.

**gym66** · 10-10-2011, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

how long do my progesterone/prolactin levels remain elevated after finishing the tren? Also, in the presence of low estrogen.. You dont get gyno from prolactin.

not sure how long they stay elevated after you stop cycle but I would not chance it when you dont half to. you are correct in the presence of low estro you should not get plolactin related gyno. but I still would not chance my body has done some fuck up shit on aas.

**theCaptn'** · 10-10-2011, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

I honestly doubt that clen has the slightest anabolic capacity at the dosages humans take. People often cite the studies conducted on rats as proof, but I think we all know thats unreliable.

If u have evidence supporting the contrary please post it.

Whether its anabolic or not, it would still be a better thermo than T3.

At 100mcg you're sure to loose muscle mass ... A good thing if your goal is to fit into your GFs jeans

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Whether its anabolic or not, it would still be a better thermo than T3.

At 100mcg you're sure to loose muscle mass ... A good thing if your goal is to fit into your GFs jeans

Didnt mean to ht a sore spot. If u want to act sensitive..ur not going to get any sympathy from me.

T3 without aas, yes u will lose mass.. With it? Highly unlikelu

**theCaptn'** · 10-10-2011, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

Didnt mean to ht a sore spot. If u want to act sensitive..ur not going to get any sympathy from me.

T3 without aas, yes u will lose mass.. With it? Highly unlikelu

I am probably the least sensitive motherfucker on this forum . . and dont need your sympathy numbnuts.

T3 at 100mcg is indiscriminate, AAS or not. Thats from research and personal experience.

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

I am probably the least sensitive motherfucker on this forum . . and dont need your sympathy numbnuts.

T3 at 100mcg is indiscriminate, AAS or not. Thats from research and personal experience.

K.

I remain unconvinced, would you please post that research you mentioned? I would really appreciate it.

**theCaptn'** · 10-10-2011, 08:34 PM

Use the search function, or, PM Heavy Iron or one of the other experienced mods.

If you keep the dose to around 50mcg you'll probably be ok. ECA is another option to consider, just keep in mind your BP when using tren and stims.

**Standard Donkey** · 10-10-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by theCaptn'

Use the search function, or, PM Heavy Iron or one of the other experienced mods.

If you keep the dose to around 50mcg you'll probably be ok. ECA is another option to consider, just keep in mind your BP when using tren and stims.

Will do, thank you for your input.

Luckily while Bp problems run through my family...I have not had the slightest bit of difficulty with them, even on 1500mg of tren ace a week.

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