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World's Greatest Lovea
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Fellows,
I am about to start a cycle of Sust/Dbol. My question is on the BF%. I am not quite sure where mine is, but I am definitely around the 20percent mark. What is the optimal BF range to start such a cycle, or any for all its worth. I know buddies of mine that suffered when their BF was high? but What are the implications of starting such a cycle with a high BF ![]() |
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Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: serenity now insanity later
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for bulking up, I say you get down to at least 14-15. The risks are the increased bodyfat will start from a higher point. And many believe that this leads to more or more serious estrogenic sides.
Dbol could make you hold alot of water |
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Pizza the Hut
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Alot of people like to be 14% approximately or less, because bulkers like to eat freely for maximal gains. Bulk/cut/bulk/cut is the somewhat normal way of doing things.
Some use test to cut even, but with test/dbol you will hold water, so you may not feel all that cut. |
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Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: serenity now insanity later
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until about 2weeks post cycle
If you keep your diet clean, you can gain a better % lean tissue and thereby reduce bf%... but that's a tricky b*tch ![]() |
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- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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World's Greatest Lovea
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pimpville
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Cornfed - Mudge thanks for the input
I am probably better off by reducing that BF down before starting the cycle, DO you guys now see why I want to pop those so called clen pills for breakfast ![]() |
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Pizza the Hut
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If you keep your diet pretty clean, get lots of protein and try not to raise the calories until needed, you may do ok. So, its really up to you.
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
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You might want to add some tren.. No Spam pleez Last edited by cornfed : 01-25-2003 at 11:42 PM. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: cali
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if estrogenic fat is an issue use novedex or armidex through out. BUt i agrea its all about diet when bulking or cutting u can stay releativly lean if you eat clean
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Sweet 'lil Innocent Mod
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: serenity now insanity later
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agreed.
But just as a reminder... NEVER start a cycle when you are unsure about your ability to keep up post cycle on diet and training!!! I lost 6 hard-earned lbs from my last go @ gaining ![]() |
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- "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
"...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?" --- Zakk Wylde --- ---Dimebag Darrel RIP--- |
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