Thread: Arms not growing!!!

I know so far that igf1-des is much faster acting than lr3, and from what ive read des is known for site enhancement, I understand the principles behind this peptide and understand how to use it, but have much reading to do as far as sides, etc. My plan is to use it in only certain muscle groups post workout. Mainly my lats and tris. Maybe a vet will chime in on this. Just an idea though, it may help break the barrier

littlekev, this thread not about igf, please make your own thread and don't thread jack. I'm looking for some serious input and i'm not looking to use igf to make my arms grow. Thanks.

Working on the negative rep more using cables. One heavy arm workout a week and one lighter high rep workout a week. When that quits working mix it up and do something else.

my arms need isolation to keep up with back/chest. Compounds just aren't enough at least for me

ask this guy

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Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

littlekev, this thread not about igf, please make your own thread and don't thread jack. I'm looking for some serious input and i'm not looking to use igf to make my arms grow. Thanks.

I was replying to your post, which is now gone. You said you had used igf-1 lr3 and put a dosage with a question mark bro. Im not jacking anything i was bringing up site enhancement, i was trying to be helpful and respond to your now deleted post.

Originally Posted by littlekev

Igf-1 des? just a question

im considering using this stuff, have you ever used it and whats it like?

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

This thread not about igf. I'm looking for some serious input to make my arms grow. Thanks.

Bump. I'm taking 2 weeks off, once I come back I'm not sure what exactly I want to do, I guess it would just be to see what works best? Possible supersetting, or isolation movements, bicep/tricep day, the list goes on I guess. Annoying that they don't seem to grow.

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

Bump. I'm taking 2 weeks off, once I come back I'm not sure what exactly I want to do, I guess it would just be to see what works best? Possible supersetting, or isolation movements, bicep/tricep day, the list goes on I guess. Annoying that they don't seem to grow.

bi/tri supersets are good...just don't overdo them with too many....so you're getting arm work twice a week with plenty of rest in between i'd consider the following split:

mon- chest/back/traps (indirectly arm work...heavy presses, weighted dips, rows, chins, etc)
wed-legs/calves
friday-delts/biceps/triceps (5 supersets + superslow negative on last rep +DC stretches)

you won't need any more sets than those 5 since you're adding 2 intensity techniques to each set.....after 4 weeks if you've not gained at least an inch then you're gay

Originally Posted by irish_2003

(5 supersets + superslow negative on last rep +DC stretches)

you won't need any more sets than those 5 since you're adding 2 intensity techniques to each set.....after 4 weeks if you've not gained at least an inch then you're gay

What exercises would you recommend for supersets? And do you mean negative on last rep for each superset (Bicep and tricep)? Never heard of DC stretches, googled it but i'm not sure it's what you mean. Can you explain? Thanks.

I split up chest and back, because it works better for me. This is how it looks for me (usually)

Bicep/tricep
Chest
Legs
Back
Shoulders/delts

Granted I get rest in between, and usually that rotation takes me more then a week (usually 3 days a week I'm not in the gym)

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

What exercises would you recommend for supersets? And do you mean negative on last rep for each superset (Bicep and tricep)? Never heard of DC stretches, googled it but i'm not sure it's what you mean. Can you explain? Thanks.

I split up chest and back, because it works better for me. This is how it looks for me (usually)

Bicep/tricep
Chest
Legs
Back
Shoulders/delts

Granted I get rest in between, and usually that rotation takes me more then a week (usually 3 days a week I'm not in the gym)

please make sure there's a rest day in between arm day and chest day....

choose exercises that you feel the movement the best.....here's some of my favorites:

triceps:
bb pullover and press superset with ez barl curls
v handle pushdowns superset with inc db curls
decline barbell ext superset with ez bar reverse curls

Originally Posted by irish_2003

please make sure there's a rest day in between arm day and chest day....

choose exercises that you feel the movement the best.....here's some of my favorites:

triceps:
bb pullover and press superset with ez barl curls
v handle pushdowns superset with inc db curls
decline barbell ext superset with ez bar reverse curls

Yeah I always rest between arms and chest day, I just listed how I split it up, I didn't include when I take my days off. How many reps/sets you doing for each of the above? Would you consider each of them 1 supersetting? (Meaning would the above be considered 3 supersettings to you?) Do you do 5 sets because thats when you feel completely dead?

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

Yeah I always rest between arms and chest day, I just listed how I split it up, I didn't include when I take my days off. How many reps/sets you doing for each of the above? Would you consider each of them 1 supersetting? (Meaning would the above be considered 3 supersettings to you?)

no just choose one each time and do it for multiple supersets.....with the dc stretching and negative at the end it's more than plenty.....i personally try to change my exercises every time...one other thing is i rarely go for a specific number of reps anymore.....some days i feel like going heavy and low reps, others i feel like going lighter and pumping the hell out of them.....your body (and mind) will tell you after warming up which rep range to do....but generally 6-10 i'll fail

Interesting, never thought to switch it each time I go in for arms nor do the same exercise for supersets. I'll give that a shot. As far as the negatives, do you do that after each set for bicep and tricep, or just at the very end? Same with the DC stretching, at the end or after every set?

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

Interesting, never thought to switch it each time I go in for arms nor do the same exercise for supersets. I'll give that a shot. As far as the negatives, do you do that after each set for bicep and tricep, or just at the very end? Same with the DC stretching, at the end or after every set?

the very last rep i'll cheat up and then do a superslow negative....maybe 20-30 seconds if i'm lucky...then immediately dc stretch for 30-60 seconds, then the other exercise in the superset the same way

Originally Posted by irish_2003

bi/tri supersets are good...just don't overdo them with too many....so you're getting arm work twice a week with plenty of rest in between i'd consider the following split:

mon- chest/back/traps (indirectly arm work...heavy presses, weighted dips, rows, chins, etc)
wed-legs/calves
friday-delts/biceps/triceps (5 supersets + superslow negative on last rep +DC stretches)

you won't need any more sets than those 5 since you're adding 2 intensity techniques to each set.....after 4 weeks if you've not gained at least an inch then you're gay

so im pretty much gonna have an extra 13" to my guns in a years time..

Originally Posted by jimm

so im pretty much gonna have an extra 13" to my guns in a years time..

no, you're gay for thinking that......you can't use any program and gain the same on it over and over.....a specialization program is just that....special...only to be used for periods of time

Originally Posted by Deity

My arms are nearly 21" and one of the easiest things for me to increase, that and shoulders. Some weeks I hit my arms every work out day alternating from light to heavy, some weeks I don't hit them at all. And some I'll work them once or twice per week. Genetics has alot to do with it I honestly think. I've seen alot of people in the gym bitch about forearms not growing over the years. I don't even train forearms and mine grow just from the weights I pull.

agreed!, my forearms I don't even have to work they get worked when I do my back and biceps because my arms are so long my forearms are so big it looks like my arms are small! lol

x2 my arms are far from impressive but my forearms make them look tiny, heavy back work is all I do for them

Bump, got another week before I hit arms. I'm going to do the supersets like irish said, only one exercise per muscle group a few sets.

Who else has does this, and had results? I've always done 3-4 different exercises per muscle for supersetting, doing just one 3-4 sets will be different. I'll also change which exercise I do each time I do arms.

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

I've been told this before, is there any science behind it? I've read up on it, but i'm just curious as to why this may help growth again after a break. I was doing a bi/tri day and then throwing in 1 exercises for each muscle (bi with back) (tri with chest). I saw a .25" growth (5 weeks in) but i'm on cycle and compared to the result it isn't really noticeable at all and this is normal considering my arms shrank off cycle. I think i'll just not directly train them for 2 weeks, although this will be hard as I've done it before and didn't see much results... My arms haven't grown much over the past cycles, which has been annoying.The one muscle group I want to be big is of course the slowest and hardest to make grow.

After these 2 weeks are up, what would be something I would want to jump back into for arms? Should I try splitting them up and just hitting biceps on back days and triceps on chest days? I've literally tried everything (although I know there has to be things I haven't), and nothing seems to work. Genetics is for sure f-ing me over here, but I know I can make them grow. So after these 2 weeks off of arms, what do I jump into?

I'm 110% sure that the gains I've made up to this point has been from the tricep, and I do know the tricep makes 2/3 the arm (I believe).

Anyway, my arm size literally haven't changed much in a year and now it's really pissing me off, while the rest of my muscle groups have either grown a lot, or gotten very defined.

In these 2 weeks i'm taking off, can I continue to do weighted dips? I love doing them.

yes yes the triceps will most of the time if not all the time out grow the bi...a punch comes most from the tricep and not from the bicep as most think, but the bi plays its part also...
i had the same shit with biceps untill i started banging out my tri's big time..now when i work the biceps i get a good pump and can see there getting biger... thk fck...

some parts of the body just take longer on some.

the key is to lissen to your body..if you feel one body part is still sore an aching this means you had a good workout on that part of the body the last time you hit it....do not work that part again till it feels ok even if its time for that body part workout....

your body is trying to tell you that that part has not had time to recover full and when you recover you GROW.

works for me

Originally Posted by irish_2003

no, you're gay for thinking that......you can't use any program and gain the same on it over and over.....a specialization program is just that....special...only to be used for periods of time

your gay for giving out crap advise and giving this guy false hope of him adding a guaranteed inch on his bi's...i bet it doenst work


peace out...

Bump.