just wondering how gains were after dropping anadrol? i would expect some weight loss (water weight) but would say 700mg of test be able to carry additional gains?
1-2 drol 50mg
3-4 drol 75mg
1-10 700mg test e
stats 5'7 24yrs 191. 12%bf
currently finishing a test and dbol cycle now
what i was hoping to hear my next cycle is set up for a recomp
1-13 test e 250mg
1-12 parabolan (tren hex) 250mg
11-15 winny 50mg
but after that i wanna do a heavy bulk..which cycle would be better for all out mass?
1-4 drol 50mg
1-14 test e 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg
or
1-4 drol 50mg
1-12 700mg test e
hcg throughout. prami .25mg ed (first cycle) and aromasin 12.5mg ed
But I'd work on that cutter before you worry about the bulk. Just run tren ace and call it a day at 50mg ED.
i split 3 vials of hex with my friend so i have 1.5 vials which is about 250mg for 12 wks..i understand why ace is better because if sides occur it'll be out of my system quick but im gonna take the risk. thanks for the input sloppy, i have prami and an ai on hand
The first cycle is better for mass but u need higher test to counteract the deca sides. 700 test/400 deca/adrol is a cookie cutter mass powerhouse.
yeah that does sound like a nasty bulker..i heard alot of people gain roughly 15 lbs from drol and lose 10 of it a week after dropping the oral even when on test. so i really hope i'd keep gaining on test or test/deca
yeah that does sound like a nasty bulker..i heard alot of people gain roughly 15 lbs from drol and lose 10 of it a week after dropping the oral even when on test. so i really hope i'd keep gaining on test or test/deca
^^^That is complete bullshit. If you are training and eating right, that WILL NOT happen...
^^^That is complete bullshit. If you are training and eating right, that WILL NOT happen...
thanks for the reply gmo..i liked dbol although it supressed my appetite pretty bad, i heard this is unusual but i guess it can happen. have you tried dbol and anadrol? what were the main differences?
I never liked kick starting with an oral b/c the cycle would stall after dropping the drug. I've "fixed" the problem by adding in another compound or upping the dose of the others once the oral is dropped.
thanks for the reply gmo..i liked dbol although it supressed my appetite pretty bad, i heard this is unusual but i guess it can happen. have you tried dbol and anadrol? what were the main differences?
Are you sure that it was the dbol that suppressed your appetite? Because when I was on dbol, I was hungry as hell.
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I never liked kick starting with an oral b/c the cycle would stall after dropping the drug. I've "fixed" the problem by adding in another compound or upping the dose of the others once the oral is dropped.
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Originally Posted by Jt123
thanks for the reply gmo..i liked dbol although it supressed my appetite pretty bad, i heard this is unusual but i guess it can happen. have you tried dbol and anadrol? what were the main differences?
I've used both several times. They are both very similar in mode of action, but I never had appetite suppression with dbol. Anadrol however did give me appetite issues when I increased my dose to 100mg ED. Since backing it down however, my appetite has returned. Both will put mass on you very quickly and increase your strength a great deal. Dbol gives you a sort of euphoric effect that drol doesn't and that makes it a hair better in my book. I run dbol 9x out of 10 and mainly use drol as a change up.
GMO i had to switch from aromasin to letro when i started dbol at the end of my cycle. nips were sensative as shit
so Glyco is this similar to the "fixed" cycles you run?
1-4 test e 500mg
1-5 dbol 40mg
5-12 test e 750mg
GMO i had to switch from aromasin to letro when i started dbol at the end of my cycle. nips were sensative as shit
so Glyco is this similar to the "fixed" cycles you run?
1-4 test e 500mg
1-5 dbol 40mg
5-12 test e 750mg
alright nice..sloppy has me itching to kick start with prop now haha and then dbol weeks 5-9 or so should be a solid mass builder and seems much better than the typical 12 week test e cycle with a 5 week dbol start
alright nice..sloppy has me itching to kick start with prop now haha and then dbol weeks 5-9 or so should be a solid mass builder and seems much better than the typical 12 week test e cycle with a 5 week dbol start
Yes, it will be. Just be sure to stay on top of your AI dose in weeks 5-9, as I mentioned before. I would bump your Aromasin to 25mg ED during this period.
i always see aromasin as not being strong enough on test and dbol..i was only on 12.5mg and had to throw in 20mg of nolva until my letro arrived and now im just on letro now .5mg eod and its doing a better job imo..i'm always gonna run letro regardless from now
i always see aromasin as not being strong enough on test and dbol..i was only on 12.5mg and had to throw in 20mg of nolva until my letro arrived and now im just on letro now .5mg eod and its doing a better job imo..i'm always gonna run letro regardless from now
Honestly, you would be better off running Aromasin 50mg ED, split AM/PM.
12.5mg isn't shit honestly... The recent blog post Heavyiron put up showed dosages of 50mg as quite common and I've personally used 25mg AM/PM like GMO just said in order to control the dbol. As long as you're not using a 19-nor, some nolva+heavy aromasin will do the trick.
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nolva will affect gains also because it lowers igf 1 and aromasin raises igf1..50mg aromasin would get expensive as shit. i'd rather run a low dose letro eod to be honest but thats just me
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