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    AAS at 18

    YES YES I KNOW I've asked this before and ill tell you I never learn but im no longer the patient little kid I was and I know that soon me and my friend will be running some kind of cycle regardless of all your good advice so I want to know

    what cycle would be the safest how can i make it safe ( i know its not safe )

    he wants to run deca or dbol

    i dont care how low we have to dose as long as I see some results and learn my lesson whether or not it hurts me in the process

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    Aas at 18 is comparatively like saying that you want to try the cock at 18- it is all about timing. You just don't have enough to time trying the pussy yet as you didnt have enough time to grow yet. For more info on trying out the cock without thinking it through, please consult with Madmann.

    I say at least 22, that's when I started and I don't have any issues.

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    ^^^^ This. If you don't want to listen to Killermonkey's advice, you're an idiot. At 18 you should be smoking weed and banging bitches, not juicing.

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    Personally, I think 22-23 is a perfect age. Any thoughts?

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    i live a sad life with nothing to lose so it doesnt really matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killermonkey View Post
    Personally, I think 22-23 is a perfect age. Any thoughts?
    Maybe even 24 or 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post
    i live a sad life with nothing to lose so it doesnt really matter
    Life will get better, in the meantime gets yourself some zoloft and some sense and you will be gtg!

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    AAS won't help your life bro. Get your shit back on track, train hard for a few years, then come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post
    i live a sad life with nothing to lose so it doesnt really matter
    You've got a lot to lose, you just don't know. Trust us, you don't need this shit now. Go grab a beer with ur buddies, smoke a joint, find some hotties, get laid and forget about AAS for at least a few years. Your future self will thank me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killermonkey View Post
    Life will get better, in the meantime gets yourself some zoloft and some sense and you will be gtg!
    i fight fire with fire depression with depression it evens out sometimes
    Last edited by kogama; 10-20-2011 at 07:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymack View Post
    ^^^^ this. If you don't want to listen to killermonkey's advice, you're an idiot. At 18 you should be smoking weed and banging bitches, not juicing.
    x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
    ^^^^ This. If you don't want to listen to Killermonkey's advice, you're an idiot. At 18 you should be smoking weed and banging bitches, not juicing.
    Banging bitches- I agree
    smoking weed- eh, dont agree.

    He doesn't need any drugs at 18, all he needs is good training, good food, and a good girl. Imho



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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
    You've got a lot to lose, you just don't know. Trust us, you don't need this shit now. Go grab a beer with ur buddies, smoke a joint, find some hotties, get laid and forget about AAS for at least a few years. Your future self will thank me.
    my friends are friggin chumps worse then or as worse as me..i lack self confidence therefore i have problems with women bodybuilding helps me confidence..ive got nothing to lose

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    At 18 you are making the equivalent of at least 100, possibly 200mg of testosterone a week. You will respond to diet and training better than any of us old farts ever will. You use exogenous testosterone in any amount and you will suppress your own natural production so you'd better read up on PCT protocols first.

    Let me warn you young man, I'm on for life and it's no picnic, twice a week - every week, sometimes every day...it's a needle going into my body somewhere. I took some time off recently and paid the price with libido issues, weakness, lost muscle, gained fat, etc...

    You really don't want to go there. Granted I'm 42 and can physically outperform most men half my age easily most of the time... but you are 18 so you shouldn't have any of the old guy issues that require me to use injected testosterone.

    With that said, do as you wish. You've been warned. I will add my words to all the others that said not to. If you do choose to disregard everyone's advice and do it anyway, don't go over 500mg / week of test only. Don't forget that time on + PCT = time off. And when you fuck up your HTPA, don't say no one warned you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Banging bitches- I agree
    smoking weed- eh, dont agree.

    He doesn't need any drugs at 18, all he needs is good training, good food, and a good girl. Imho
    You're probably right. But I had an absolute blast at his age. 18-21 was fucking awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .V. View Post
    At 18 you are making the equivalent of at least 100, possibly 200mg of testosterone a week. You will respond to diet and training better than any of us old farts ever will. You use exogenous testosterone in any amount and you will suppress your own natural production so you'd better read up on PCT protocols first.

    Let me warn you young man, I'm on for life and it's no picnic, twice a week - every week, sometimes every day...it's a needle going into my body somewhere. I took some time off recently and paid the price with libido issues, weakness, lost muscle, gained fat, etc...

    You really don't want to go there. Granted I'm 42 and can physically outperform most men half my age easily most of the time... but you are 18 so you shouldn't have any of the old guy issues that require me to use injected testosterone.

    With that said, do as you wish. You've been warned. I will add my words to all the others that said not to. If you do choose to disregard everyone's advice and do it anyway, don't go over 500mg / week of test only. Don't forget that time on + PCT = time off. And when you fuck up your HTPA, don't say no one warned you.
    some lessons are only learned when tears are pouring down your cheek , ive paid for a lot of things with my body and blood like i said i dont hold much value over my life and my parents will tell you the same

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    Give yourself a few more years bro. Work out clean and get yourself in a good routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
    You're probably right. But I had an absolute blast at his age. 18-21 was fucking awesome.
    i can assure you my 18th year of life is nothing special but even without juice whether you believe it or not I am working my ass of in the gym because its one of the only comforts i have in life


    edit: my diet is shit though I eat whatever I find i just dont know how to put a diet together and I never pay much attention to it I just supplement my vitamins and protein even though I know real food is important

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    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post
    my friends are friggin chumps worse then or as worse as me..i lack self confidence therefore i have problems with women bodybuilding helps me confidence..ive got nothing to lose
    You just need a confidence booster! Get a girlfriend and enjoy your life. If you are looking for a drug that will give you confidence and 'fix' your life, it doesn't exist. Be happy with what you have, make the most of what you have, and later on in life use AAS to enhance your life, not fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.thom View Post
    AAS won't help your life bro. Get your shit back on track, train hard for a few years, then come back.
    neither will anything/anyone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
    You just need a confidence booster! Get a girlfriend and enjoy your life. If you are looking for a drug that will give you confidence and 'fix' your life, it doesn't exist. Be happy with what you have, make the most of what you have, and later on in life use AAS to enhance your life, not fix it.
    its good advice I wont deny that but I can also dish out the best advice ..only problem is I can never practice what I preach....I can give a person all the advice they need but never use it myself things are easier said than done

    listen ive never even kissed a girl its pathetic isnt it..not the looks(maybe ) attitude ( i never act depressed , i have the ultimate facade sometimes i even believe its real ) and a pretty decent personality but I cant talk to women...i suck at it plain and simple i freeze, choke...etc

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    Seriously, take some time to think about your choices. I'll leave you with one last thought: you can turn a cucumber into a pickle, but you can't turn a pickle back into a cucumber. Don't pickle you endocrine system without fully thinking it through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMack View Post
    Seriously, take some time to think about your choices. I'll leave you with one last thought: you can turn a cucumber into a pickle, but you can't turn a pickle back into a cucumber. Don't pickle you endocrine system without fully thinking it through.
    I loled but this is how my logic is working currently

    life = not important

    endocrine system = something important

    life contains endocrine system therefore life > endocrine system

    therefore

    endocrine system not important


    wow I come across as a depressed bastard I know...but I need new friends , while I do have 2 best friends i love to hang out with and talk to this isnt something i can talk to them about

    i keep all of this to myself as to not be a bother not to mention they wouldnt even believe this ive had a facade up for 18yrs ..ive been treated like dog crap ever since I was a child but I learned to hide it behind a smile and a playful personality


    I remember one day Junior yr of health when i was still in high school they asked who was depressed or whoever considered suicide i told them i had those feelings but they never believed me


    more importantly help me run this with minimal life destroying effects if possible..but then again might as well search a full cycle and take it a short life with muscles is better than the one im currently living
    Last edited by kogama; 10-20-2011 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post

    i keep all of this to myself as to not be a bother not to mention they wouldnt even believe this ive had a facade up for 18yrs ..ive been treated like dog crap ever since I was a child but I learned to hide it behind a smile and a playful personality


    I remember one day Junior yr of health when i was still in high school they asked who was depressed or whoever considered suicide i told them i had those feelings but they never believed me
    Life is tough, especially for those of us that had a dysfunctional childhood. When I was your age I dropped out of highschool, fucked around a lot, slept on peoples couches because I didn't have anywhere to go. I eventually realized what a bad mistake I made and changed my life around and busted my ass to get out of that situation. You're not alone; a lot of us have felt depressed/helpless, but that's just a temporary feeling. Everything else, including all the negative stuff that happened in the past doesn't matter. What matters is that you move forward, and try to get somewhere. Life is all about moving forward.



    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post

    i dont care how low we have to dose as long as I see some results and learn my lesson whether or not it hurts me in the process
    I remember at your age I had the same outlook on life. Learning a lesson the hard way is always a bad idea. Getting lab tests back once you come off cycle and realizing you will need TRT for the rest of your life just to function normally is a scary thought, especially at 18. Whatever minuscule results you get from a dbol/deca cycle isn't worth it in the long run at your age.

    I suggest you take the above advice and reconsider. Focus on a job, getting money, and your own place. Steroids aren't cheap (when you are actually ready to use them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneytoblow View Post
    Steroids aren't cheap.

    for those with a bright future ahead

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    Unless your trying to go pro in bodybuilding, then AAS at 18 is not for you. If your diet/training now aren't getting you gains at 18 years old, adding gear won't help anyways

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    I know drugs arent magic but I workout hard and see slow results I want faster results...drugs, supplements it doesnt matter

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    brother aas is not what you need, antidepresants and some counselling would be a much better choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kogama View Post
    I know drugs arent magic but I workout hard and see slow results I want faster results...drugs, supplements it doesnt matter
    Listen bro, I'll give you the best advice I can give you. First off, do you have at least 200 bucks to spend on supplements a month? If you do, go to a costco or sams club. Buy 100 bucks worth of whey protein, that'll get you about 12lbs of whey. Use the other 100 to buy a multi vitamin, creatine, bcaa's, pre wo energy drink, best place to buy is online.

    Every day as soon as you wake up, two scoops of whey then an hour later your normal breakfest. After each meal drink a scoop of whey. Post workout 2 scoops. All the whey you bought, try to use it up in a month. I guarantee that you will gain at least 3-5lbs a month. Give this plan a try before continuing thinking about aas. you may think you got nothing to lose right now but believe me there's always something to lose.



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