Thread: need advice on dianabol

Originally Posted by gixxermaniak

as i failed miserably on my last thread heres another im 24 years old 184 lbs 17%bf ive been working out for a little over 2 years on and off the last cycle i took was PH D-DROL gave me good results but looking for more i train 6 days a week two hours a day and i eat like a pig lots of chicken steak and toons of water... i guess my question is is this stuff good to gain mass and what else should i take along with this to support milk thistle fish oil and tons of food

dbol is one of my favorite orals. Its a great kick starter, I hope your plan was'nt to just use dbol alone, bad idea. What were you planning on running?
gl

Need more details. Specific Workout routine, diet ect. Bodyfat is a bit high. Previous poster is right about running oral-only cycles. Six days a week is overkill, IMHO Give us more info, and we can help you better.

get some test

read the sticky: first cycle and pct

500mg test a week, .25mg a-dex a day, clomid/aromasin pct , kickstart with dbol if you so desire. I'd get your bodyfat down a bit first though, and yes 2 hours in the gym is overkill if you're routine is good

ill be taking
d-bol 25mg a day for four weeks
a-dex 1 tablet a day for four weeks
also ill be taking milk thistle and fish oil once a day for four weeks
and eating like a mad man 50 gram protein shake a day
five egs in the morning
lunch lots of beans and steaks and other meats my wife makes
and dinner is always usually the same as lunch besides some serial with it

Originally Posted by gixxermaniak

ill be taking
d-bol 25mg a day for four weeks
a-dex 1 tablet a day for four weeks
also ill be taking milk thistle and fish oil once a day for four weeks
and eating like a mad man 50 gram protein shake a day
five egs in the morning
lunch lots of beans and steaks and other meats my wife makes
and dinner is always usually the same as lunch besides some serial with it

not a good idea bro, orals only cycle? bad. do some reading like digital said

but he's prolly too much of a bitch to pin...

Originally Posted by jtterrible

but he's prolly too much of a bitch to pin...

im goin to think positive and think he's just not informed

Originally Posted by BigD4life

im goin to think positive and think he's just not informed

which is rarely the case lol.. who hasn't heard of injectable testosterone?.. seriously.. I heard of test e before I heard of dbol.. but taking a few pills is less scary than pinning..

the guy i work out with said to first do a cycle of the oral unless im being missinformed ....and if thats the case why dont you guys inform me on whats the correct way to do it because yes i can read millions of countless threads but that wont get me anywerr because their are millions of difrent answers

Originally Posted by jtterrible

which is rarely the case lol.. who hasn't heard of injectable testosterone?.. seriously.. I heard of test e before I heard of dbol.. but taking a few pills is less scary than pinning..

ok bro, heres the answer, dbol alone is nit what you want, thats all there is to it. Your first aas cycly should be a test only cycle, no need for dbol. For AI aromasin and for pct aromasin and clomid, thats it. Your work out partner is an idiot

there you go bro thats the answer i was looking for i used my comon sense and didnt take his advice thats why im here

Originally Posted by BigD4life

ok bro, heres the answer, dbol alone is nit what you want, thats all there is to it. Your first aas cycly should be a test only cycle, no need for dbol. For AI aromasin and for pct aromasin and clomid, thats it. Your work out partner is an idiot

Originally Posted by gixxermaniak

the guy i work out with said to first do a cycle of the oral unless im being missinformed ....and if thats the case why dont you guys inform me on whats the correct way to do it because yes i can read millions of countless threads but that wont get me anywerr because their are millions of difrent answers

Yes you can read millions of threads but if you focus on just the "stickies" first you will get great info. I would read the stickies in the anabolic zone, the diet zone, and the training zone at least.

They made them stickies because they are agreed upon by the vast majority to give solid dependable info....more solid than any randomly posted response.

When you post like this you get answers all over the map and end up more confused than you started. Trust me I know how it feels when you're first starting out (I started off making random questions like this just about 4 months ago on a different site)...you'll make much greater bounds in knowledge if you just start by reading every single sticky (there's only a handful)-at least the first few posts of each. Save any questions until after you've read them and you'll actually understand people's responses much better.

One of the best possible things you can read First Cycle and PCT

Dbol isn't necessary but I kickstarted my first cycle with it and enjoyed it alot. Either way just get over your fear of pinning and you'll be farrr better off in the long run. It's painless bro, don't sweat it

Look into using insulin pins if you want, I honestly think you'd be better off just going with a 25ga. though. If insulin pins are the only thing you ever use you'll probably still be afraid of using a larger gauge, not a huge deal but if you ever have to pin more than 1ml at a time it's going to become an issue. Lowest I've ever gone was a 21ga because I ran out and my bro had a bunch, the pain was honestly about the same (minimal) just harder to push through the skin. 25 ga. is easy as hell

your body is all fat brother, not rubbing your nuts wrong but you have way to much bf for a guy that weighs as much as you good god i weight is doulble yours and my bf is 5 % lower. like a wiseman named MDR said give more info to let us know more about your stats, goals, diet. stick to protein, creatine, dextrose, metformin and test cyp as i think test e leaves you more bloated.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

One of the best possible things you can read First Cycle and PCT

Dbol isn't necessary but I kickstarted my first cycle with it and enjoyed it alot. Either way just get over your fear of pinning and you'll be farrr better off in the long run. It's painless bro, don't sweat it

Look into using insulin pins if you want, I honestly think you'd be better off just going with a 25ga. though. If insulin pins are the only thing you ever use you'll probably still be afraid of using a larger gauge, not a huge deal but if you ever have to pin more than 1ml at a time it's going to become an issue. Lowest I've ever gone was a 21ga because I ran out and my bro had a bunch, the pain was honestly about the same (minimal) just harder to push through the skin. 25 ga. is easy as hell

shit i do 21g or 22g all the time do to yrs of buildup of scar tissue.

Originally Posted by unclem

your body is all fat brother, not rubbing your nuts wrong but you have way to much bf for a guy that weighs as much as you good god i weight is doulble yours and my bf is 5 % lower. like a wiseman named MDR said give more info to let us know more about your stats, goals, diet. stick to protein, creatine, dextrose, metformin and test cyp as i think test e leaves you more bloated.

Why would you advise him to take metformin??

Originally Posted by unclem

shit i do 21g or 22g all the time do to yrs of buildup of scar tissue.

lol I've been overusing quads and I'm starting to run into scar tissue just about every time, time to switch it up I just like quads so much

I agree though op, your bf is too high. Learn how to diet and get down to sub 15% at the least. If your diet/training aren't on point your results on AAS will be subpar, and you'll lose them as soon as you come off.

Originally Posted by Digitalash

One of the best possible things you can read First Cycle and PCT

Dbol isn't necessary but I kickstarted my first cycle with it and enjoyed it alot. Either way just get over your fear of pinning and you'll be farrr better off in the long run. It's painless bro, don't sweat it

Look into using insulin pins if you want, I honestly think you'd be better off just going with a 25ga. though. If insulin pins are the only thing you ever use you'll probably still be afraid of using a larger gauge, not a huge deal but if you ever have to pin more than 1ml at a time it's going to become an issue. Lowest I've ever gone was a 21ga because I ran out and my bro had a bunch, the pain was honestly about the same (minimal) just harder to push through the skin. 25 ga. is easy as hell

Bro I use 18g on my quad lol jk

^lol

I'm pretty sure they use 18ga. for some piercings, can't imagine the kind of scar tissue you'd have after years of using those...

allright i checked my BF and it was at 15%

Originally Posted by gixxermaniak

allright i checked my BF and it was at 15%

did you check your balls to see if they grew enough to do a real cycle?

how tall are you..... 184 17%bf isnt to big....

5'11"

Originally Posted by sofargone561

how tall are you..... 184 17%bf isnt to big....

Originally Posted by jtterrible

did you check your balls to see if they grew enough to do a real cycle?

i think he's ignoring you

gl

it'll be ok.. he thinks I'm just trollin.. which is partially true.. but reading "I want to do an oral cycle because I am a giant pussy" threads gets annoying.. so idk.. usually the outcome is them not listening at all to what we say and they go ahead and do it anyway..

Originally Posted by jtterrible

it'll be ok.. he thinks I'm just trollin.. which is partially true.. but reading "I want to do an oral cycle because I am a giant pussy" threads gets annoying.. so idk.. usually the outcome is them not listening at all to what we say and they go ahead and do it anyway..

what i really like is when a young 18 year old kid asks if its a good idea to do a cycle, everyone tells them no anf the last post they write is, well i think ill do it anyways lol
gl

I won't comment on that.. cuz honestly it's really dumb that everyone jumps all over them.. because most did it at that age anyway.. but didn't know about pct.. or trip.. so they got fucked.. yea it can be bad.. but for people like me.. who were fully grown by 17 it didn't make a difference.. it's stupid to jump them for it.. unless they don't know shit about what they are doing and just think that gear is an answer for them to sluff on diet and training...