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    Advice please

    So I ran trenazone and m-drol for 6 weeks where i gained about 3 lbs which was strange because i gained 10 lbs with pmag with the same diet. Ne way i am in week four of my pct. Should i wait another month or would it be safe to start a test e cycle?

    *just bummed out cuz i think my m drol was bunk and i still wanna gain muscle b4 spring break

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    Well blood work is the only true way to tell if you are ready. If your gear is bunk, there is a reason for it. Especially if you have multiple cycles under your belt and you have personal experience to compare to. 3 lbs on m-drol alone is even pathetic. With a good diet 12-15 isn't unreasonable.

    However, if you don't feel shut down, your libido is good, you don't have a problem getting it up and you aren't depressed and pathetic I'd say go for it. Test E will take at least 4 weeks to kick in but can and will shut you down naturally nonetheless.
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    I say go for it and kickstart ur test e with either dbol prop or both

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    yeah i mean my libido is almost back to normal though lately ive been having problems with the thicker rubbers, so i switched to ultra thin trojans but they ripp so beware. So you dont think that having done trenazone and pct then moving straight to another cycle will hinder gains?

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    also great white i see you rep extreme peptides. how is their igf-1 lr3 and des? i've been askin around the forum and i cant find anyone whose used it. i was thinking about doing peptide cycle before starting on the test

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    Quote Originally Posted by PappyMason View Post
    yeah i mean my libido is almost back to normal though lately ive been having problems with the thicker rubbers, so i switched to ultra thin trojans but they ripp so beware. So you dont think that having done trenazone and pct then moving straight to another cycle will hinder gains?
    I am a firm believer in priming to get the most out of a cycle. Remember, your body is always trying to reach homeostasis. Priming keeps the body guessing and maximizes potential gains for an upcoming cycle. So just when your body levels out at the end of a cycle, you PCT, and then cruise natty for a period of time. Think of it like a reset more or less. The idea is to cleanse your receptors so they are fresh for your next cycle. Check out this sticky. It's gold.

    Priming and Off cycle therapy!!!

    I'd recommend priming for at least 4 weeks. Before jumping on another cycle. You have PLENTY of time to put on some mass before spring break bro, especially with a good priming. You'll be glad you did. If you don't give your body and more specifically your HPTA ample time to normalize, say hello to ED. Constant and consistent supression of your body's endogenous hormones (aka back to back cycles) can end up being permanent. Don't let anxiety get the best of you!

    If I may ask, how do you plan on running your next cycle? Just test E?

    Quote Originally Posted by PappyMason View Post
    also great white i see you rep extreme peptides. how is their igf-1 lr3 and des? i've been askin around the forum and i cant find anyone whose used it. i was thinking about doing peptide cycle before starting on the test
    Well I'm not a "rep" for them in that sense, just an advocate and a happy customer. It's funny that you ask because I have been waiting for the right moment to give their peps a shot. I ordered some IGF1-DES awhile back but I have yet to run it. To be honest I forgot about it until now lol. I will be venturing into the world of peps in the near future however. I can say that their research chems are g2g, so if you need chems for your research they have my recommendation.

    After reading a thread by OldSchoolLifter in the Elite section I think I'm going to run GHRP and CJC side by side to help me with some back issues I am having. Once they get everything settled that is.
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    don't mean to be ignorant but what would the IGF1 peptide do? i just want to educate myself about everything.

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    soon after i posted this, i read that its similar to HGH?

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    Greatwhite
    I'm planning to do test e (500mg/week) with a super dmz or epistane kickstart. 16 week with winstrol added at week 12. I definitely want to wait the four weeks but its so tempting to just start the cycle. Definitely wish i had some more feedback on their igf, ghrp, and cjc.

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    igf is insulin like growth factor. Apparently it helps maintain muscle mass while leaning out or give a little gain (4-5 lbs) (some say localized). But you need like 99% purity for the stuff to work well. some people say it works, others say its just an expensive pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PappyMason View Post
    Greatwhite
    I'm planning to do test e (500mg/week) with a super dmz or epistane kickstart. 16 week with winstrol added at week 12. I definitely want to wait the four weeks but its so tempting to just start the cycle.
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    Slow and steady wins the race. I would go with Super DMZ over stane for your kickstart. You'll get fluffy and moon faced on Test solo anyways. Plus you're going to be finishing out with winny which will cut the water and fluff. Just a personal preference though.

    Going back to your initial question though, you'll probably be OK to start but you'll see better results if you wait. That is, if your gear from last cycle wasn't bunk. My first two cycles I pretty much went back to back. My 2nd cycle was the worst. The gains sucked to be honest. 10 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, then back on for 14. It took me forever to recover and I got pretty worried. Live and Learn.
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