Thread: why can't you just take AAS by itself? What's the science behind all this?

im only answering this cuz im high and bored.

you're dealing with altering your hormone levels when you take aas. so there are some things you gotta deal with to control them. testosterone aromatizes (converts) to estrogen and there are estrogen receptors around the nipples and if too much estrogen builds up, they puff out so you wanna reduce those total estrogen levels by taking an A.I. (aromatase inhibitor). some people aren't prone to this issue while others are.

and then you have to run PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) to restore your body's natural testosterone production quicker. this is a 4-5 week period where you take clomid and/or nolva + an A.I. to get test levels back up. this is because when you introduce aas into your system, the body shuts down it's testosterone production because it's already getting a shitload more of it from somewhere else. (steroids) If you don't do PCT, you can remain shut down for months, years, etc. all depends on the person. be safe, run a PCT every time and get bloodwork several months after.

and testosterone is/should be the base of every cycle. while test is still suppresive in itself, the body still needs testosterone when other steroid compounds will shut you down. so you include it in all cycles.

I would prime eat right first if ur not doing that "prime" food first
But before we all get into this what's your stats? Age BF% ,training etc...

Originally Posted by penisenvy

it turns out I'd need to take other things with it as well (testosterone?) so I don't grow "bitch tits"? Really?

You need to do some research because that sentence is far from the truth and makes no sense.

Op its not as complicated as youre making it.

You could run a simple test only cycle with a tiny amount of Adex everyday or aromasin. Then a SERM as your PCT.

Yes, you need a carb source post w.o. It varies based on your weight, goals, training etc. read everything you can.

[QUOTE=alphabolic;2525461]im only answering this cuz im high and bored.

[QUOTE]

That's really the only way you can really answer these questions

Originally Posted by alphabolic

im only answering this cuz im high and bored.
Fucking funny, lmfao..

you're dealing with altering your hormone levels when you take aas. so there are some things you gotta deal with to control them. testosterone aromatizes (converts) to estrogen and there are estrogen receptors around the nipples and if too much estrogen builds up, they puff out so you wanna reduce those total estrogen levels by taking an A.I. (aromatase inhibitor). some people aren't prone to this issue while others are.

and then you have to run PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) to restore your body's natural testosterone production quicker. this is a 4-5 week period where you take clomid and/or nolva + an A.I. to get test levels back up. this is because when you introduce aas into your system, the body shuts down it's testosterone production because it's already getting a shitload more of it from somewhere else. (steroids) If you don't do PCT, you can remain shut down for months, years, etc. all depends on the person. be safe, run a PCT every time and get bloodwork several months after.

and testosterone is/should be the base of every cycle. while test is still suppresive in itself, the body still needs testosterone when other steroid compounds will shut you down. so you include it in all cycles.

Here's my advice, Don't even think about taking any AAS for at least 6 months and do some research and then take another 6 months and start reading threads in till you start to understanding what going on.
Knowing is half the battle!!

Spam, Negging this douche! a simple 5 min google search could answer these questions!

Originally Posted by penisenvy

I'm a newbie. I thought AAS was the only thing you need to take but it turns out I'd need to take other things with it as well (testosterone?) so I don't grow "bitch tits"? Really? What's the science behind all this? How many products do I really need to take and why can't I just take AAS by itself? Why I need to take other stuff?

I also read somewhere that for every 50 grams of protein you eat you need 100 carbohydrates with it (I don't get the science behind this). Not sure if this is still true or there may have been changes.

Try to read the older threads, that what i did when i first became a member, there is alot of good info.
if you can spend 30$ you can become an elite member and read the diet and AAS books in that section...Great books, it is worth the money and time...good luck

you probably already have bitch tits. lemme see!

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

You need to do some research because that sentence is far from the truth and makes no sense.

so basically I'd be using 3 drugs: AAS, testosterone, and PCT?

Originally Posted by SFW

Op its not as complicated as youre making it.

You could run a simple test only cycle with a tiny amount of Adex everyday or aromasin. Then a SERM as your PCT.

Yes, you need a carb source post w.o. It varies based on your weight, goals, training etc. read everything you can.

[QUOTE=penisenvy;2526958]so basically I'd be using 3 drugs: AAS, testosterone, and PCT?[/Q

??????

Originally Posted by penisenvy

you probably already have bitch tits. lemme see!

To someone who's looking for help you're not starting the better way

this ain't insider trading! we are a community! spill the beans!

Originally Posted by Natas-phx

Here's my advice, Don't even think about taking any AAS for at least 6 months and do some research and then take another 6 months and start reading threads in till you start to understanding what going on.
Knowing is half the battle!!

hmmm. will someone here get to the point so this thread do not end up too long and WITHOUT answers?

Originally Posted by Robalo

To someone who's looking for help you're not starting the better way

maybe you should get on a good protein before you start thinking about taking AAS...

What is your age? You obviously are no where near ready to use AAS. Read as much as possible first. Not understanding what you are doing can lead to many health risks. Being uninformed and using AAS anyway will make all of us look bad when you come back crying how Steroids messed you up. Start reading the sticky threads in this section. One of the threads stats that if you are going to ask for advice you must provide information. Many have asked already. What is your age, cycle history, training history, BF%. Be honest if you want honest advice. Also when someone takes the time to give you advice don't be a smart ass because you don't like what advice they gave you. If you are not ready, we will tell you that you are not ready and help you if that is really what you want to do down the road. We want to help each other be safe. This board is one of the best out there and the guys here are willing to help more than anyother board I have been on. We come here to share our experience and advice with each other. Take the advice and when you do use AAS you will be much better off.

Im new to this board but not new to this game so I thought I would share my 0.02cents here. You obviously need not to run a cycle you have no clue about these hormones and have no clue how to properly run a cycle. Ive been cycling for a little while maybe 5 years and I spent atleast 2 years researching and just reading before I even considered to run one.

We are not talking about creatine and glutamine here we are talking about hormones and you can cause yourself some serious and irreversible damage to your body. AAS is not the magic answer to get your body the way you want it to be. Yes people grow off of them but thats because there training,diet, sleeping and other things are in order.

Before you decide to put hormones into your body just take some time and read it will really benefit you in the long run.

[QUOTE=gamma;2527004]

Originally Posted by penisenvy

so basically I'd be using 3 drugs: AAS, testosterone, and PCT?[/Q

??????

x2 lol

the test is a aas

age: 28, weight: 150, height: 5'7", body fat not sure. Bodybuilding for over 10 years without AAS, just carbs and proteins.

Originally Posted by Chino0823

I would prime eat right first if ur not doing that "prime" food first
But before we all get into this what's your stats? Age BF% ,training etc...

oh so now it's 2? what's aromatase inhibitor (A.I.)? is that the post cycle therapy then? you guys come up with new nicknames all the time. just stick with the facts please.

[QUOTE=FreakZilla;2528080]

Originally Posted by gamma

x2 lol

the test is a aas

wow 2 years? you sure you're running a cycle and not a sex change?

Originally Posted by brothabrown92586

Im new to this board but not new to this game so I thought I would share my 0.02cents here. You obviously need not to run a cycle you have no clue about these hormones and have no clue how to properly run a cycle. Ive been cycling for a little while maybe 5 years and I spent atleast 2 years researching and just reading before I even considered to run one.

We are not talking about creatine and glutamine here we are talking about hormones and you can cause yourself some serious and irreversible damage to your body. AAS is not the magic answer to get your body the way you want it to be. Yes people grow off of them but thats because there training,diet, sleeping and other things are in order.

Before you decide to put hormones into your body just take some time and read it will really benefit you in the long run.

dude thanks for the concern. but isn't getting on a cycle basically this: take AAS, workout/lift weights. Get off the AAS cycle, continue working out while on post cycle therapy (PCT, aromatase inhibitor or A.I.) so I don't grow "bitch tits". What did I miss? Isn't the main concern when taking AAS is to avoid growing a C-cup?

I know the dangers of steroids. The good things from using it is it bulks you up...makes you look good...pretty much it.

I've never done an AAS cycle. My age: 28, body fat not sure, weight 150 pounds used to be closer to 200 in high school, been a bodybuilder for over 10 years. Never used AAS, just carbs and proteins, a little bit of legal supplements you can buy at GNC.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

What is your age? You obviously are no where near ready to use AAS. Read as much as possible first. Not understanding what you are doing can lead to many health risks. Being uninformed and using AAS anyway will make all of us look bad when you come back crying how Steroids messed you up. Start reading the sticky threads in this section. One of the threads stats that if you are going to ask for advice you must provide information. Many have asked already. What is your age, cycle history, training history, BF%. Be honest if you want honest advice. Also when someone takes the time to give you advice don't be a smart ass because you don't like what advice they gave you. If you are not ready, we will tell you that you are not ready and help you if that is really what you want to do down the road. We want to help each other be safe. This board is one of the best out there and the guys here are willing to help more than anyother board I have been on. We come here to share our experience and advice with each other. Take the advice and when you do use AAS you will be much better off.

AAS are not somoething you can just jump into after a few hours of research, which judging by your posts is what youre attempting.

Excercise some common sense - do some research, read the stickies on first cycle advise, USE GOOGLE to reference terminology and info you dont know, keep on reading. If you're too lazy to do this, you shouldnt even think about using AAS.

Dont do 5mins of reasearch and then ask a bunch half formed questions and shoot everyone down for telling you to research more. Thats not smart.

FWIW - Testosterone = AAS

Not sure I'm even understanding this thread. Noone is saying you CAN'T use ICT and PCT just it's not reccomended. The science behind it is all over the place if you do a little research, not even alot hell even the stickies are linked to medical documents.

Back in my young dumb and full of cum days we abused aas. Back than (late 90s) noone knew what PCT was, or had the knowledge or correct stacked cycles. We'd go to the pharmacy overseas give em some yen and walk away with whatever the pharmacist handed you, pinning 1cc up to 2cc a couple times a week over a 3 or 4 month period and than rotate back to the states without any PCT. I'm 32 now with no noticeable long term effects from back than. But nowadays I sure as fuck wouldn't run a cycle without at least having Clomid for the back end.

Originally Posted by penisenvy

age: 28, weight: 150, height: 5'7", body fat not sure. Bodybuilding for over 10 years without AAS, just carbs and proteins.

OK, that's a start but if you are truly taking bb seriously you would know that one of the first things you need to work on is your diet....right....so you sould be able to post how many meals you're eating a day, what you are eating during each meal and don't just put chicken at noon make sure you put how many oz of chicken etc..etc..be very detailed on each meal with protein,carb,fat intake. If you don't already have this written down your not taking bb seriously. This is my opinion, 10yrs of bb and your weight is 150lbs.....forget AAS, lets get your diet on point for a least a year and go from there....

You're a fucking troll. GTFO faggot.

You come to this site looking for advice and obviously have no clue about aas then when we give you CONSTRUCTIVE criticism you get all bent out of shape. If you have been bodybuilding for 10years and only weigh 150lbs then you have a major problem with your diet. When I started lifting I was 160lbs right now Im sitting at 235lbs and im 6'1 and currently off cycle. Your going to eed to revamp your whole diet and seriously take a look at what your doing. AAS should be the last thing in your list right now......

My guess is the guys that can't research at least what the compounds are, can't research how to program their training or diet.

I will save you A LOT of research. I know a few pors and they let me in on their trick. As much Tren as you can get and a shake weight is all you need You'll have to beat the bitches of after a 6 month cycle.