Thread: 1st short cycle advise

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

wanting to run a real short 4-6wk cycle to crash my test levels so i can get doc to help me out. my levels are 400 and 82free im 42. plan on doing more later just want ideal of good cycle for growth. thinking test of some sort and how much pct for this kind of cycle?
thanks

If you are trying to crash your test levels to get on TRT, why run a PCT?

thats what i was thinking but didn't know for sure

If you crash your levels most doctors will put you on a gel or patch. You wont get huge or anything. They will bring your test levels up to normal. I have used the androgel and the stuff is more expensive than runnin gear.

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

wanting to run a real short 4-6wk cycle to crash my test levels so i can get doc to help me out. my levels are 400 and 82free im 42. plan on doing more later just want ideal of good cycle for growth. thinking test of some sort and how much pct for this kind of cycle?
thanks

What are your motives? How about just running a cycle?

My motives are I've always been the fat kid now I'm down 90 lbs and want to go to other extreme and be much bigger than average. Wife wants doctor to know about use so if I get trt I can get reg blood work covered by ins. While I blast and cruise. Probably just going to cycle test e for 12 weeks at 500 then back down to 200 and have blood work done to figure out what a good cruise dose is. I don't care about kids my youngest just started. College and don't want more.

Originally Posted by Mkpaint

My motives are I've always been the fat kid now I'm down 90 lbs and want to go to other extreme and be much bigger than average. Wife wants doctor to know about use so if I get trt I can get reg blood work covered by ins. While I blast and cruise. Probably just going to cycle test e for 12 weeks at 500 then back down to 200 and have blood work done to figure out what a good cruise dose is. I don't care about kids my youngest just started. College and don't want more.

Gotcha.

90k or 90lbs?

90lbs since sept. 28 2010 currently 5'8" 190lbs

is this your first cycle? If so just run test prop for 4-6 weeks and then get bloodwork about a week after your last injection. It's not an ideal cycle but it should accomplish your goal of getting prescribed trt. They will probably start you on gel but I think after a few weeks you can go back and request weekly injections. Tell them the gel is a hastle and you're worried about it wiping off on your wife/children etc.


edit: you also need an AI like arimidex or aromasin during your cycle

if diet is good which it is and i train hard what kind of gains could i get from this short cycle? how much is maintainable?