Thread: cycle help

As someone who did tons of training while geared in the service I would add a few things.

Add EPO to get your times into the PR zone. (if you do this then you could take out the EQ). I would add GH, (wonderful for tri-athletes). I would also add some Var to the end of your cycle to help keep some gains, won't add but maybe 1-3lbs, and will help performance (did for me).

I would run Test E as your test, and if you add the GH you could even lower it to 300/wk as a tri-athlete.

Your clomi dose on day 1 is high.

What level are you competing at? This will help suggestions.
EPO isn't needed for lower level comps unless you love throwing good times up.

^ except i would say to use the eq it will boost your rbc and give u lots of endurance, epo can be very dangerous and most athlete's who use it are closely monitered. if you want to do tri a, i would drop dbol. i would do wk 3-15 test 500mg, and do wk 1-15 eq 400mg

^ Good point. EPO is something to be closely monitored. I assume people have every cycle monitored, which is my mistake. EQ is great for the RBC count, you are right. He did mention he wants mass, so maybe that is his reasoning behind the Dbol, but if he is competitive in tri's then the mass dbol brings isn't going to help much. (goes into what level he is competing at). Best thing little kev... Lengthen the EQ run to AT LEAST 14 weeks. Especially if being used for RBC purposes.

Originally Posted by anxious1

As someone who did tons of training while geared in the service I would add a few things.

Add EPO to get your times into the PR zone. (if you do this then you could take out the EQ). I would add GH, (wonderful for tri-athletes). I would also add some Var to the end of your cycle to help keep some gains, won't add but maybe 1-3lbs, and will help performance (did for me).

I would run Test E as your test, and if you add the GH you could even lower it to 300/wk as a tri-athlete.

Your clomi dose on day 1 is high.

What level are you competing at? This will help suggestions.
EPO isn't needed for lower level comps unless you love throwing good times up.

Originally Posted by littlekev

^ except i would say to use the eq it will boost your rbc and give u lots of endurance, epo can be very dangerous and most athlete's who use it are closely monitered. if you want to do tri a, i would drop dbol. i would do wk 3-15 test 500mg, and do wk 1-15 eq 400mg

I agree that EPO is not for me. I am at a good level for my age. I finish most races either foot or bike in the top 10 for my age. It is not my full time job and no one is paying me to do it. I train (run, bike, swim) hard and often 5 days week. (it might be my therapy) I just think I can be better ( better for me!!!) It is really about pushing myself and coming in faster then the times before. As far as the mass goes it is again me being my own worst critic and wanting to look more fit. Gym time is 530am 4 days a week with trainer to build mass and strength.

1. I would like to stick with EQ and extend the time on both to 15 weeks
2. Reduce Clomid to 200 on day 1
3. If you feel it will not interfer I would like to keep dbol for the mass?
4. start test week 3.
5. i just added 2 Up Your Mass shakes to my day so brings my cal up to about 4200

everything stays the same?

also should I stop anything here while on?

fishoil x 2 aday
CLA x 2 aday
ZMA at night x3
Mike thistle x 3 aday
glutamine x6 aday
creatine pre and post gym
BCAA x3 scoops (1 scoop with each protein shake)
green tea extract x2 aday
animal pac multi x1 pac
animal pac flex x1 pac
Syntha 6 proteinx 3 shakes a day
Up your mass x2 shakes a day

Originally Posted by anxious1

^ Good point. EPO is something to be closely monitored. I assume people have every cycle monitored, which is my mistake. EQ is great for the RBC count, you are right. He did mention he wants mass, so maybe that is his reasoning behind the Dbol, but if he is competitive in tri's then the mass dbol brings isn't going to help much. (goes into what level he is competing at). Best thing little kev... Lengthen the EQ run to AT LEAST 14 weeks. Especially if being used for RBC purposes.

Yup, if you want to run dbol i would, it will not hurt the cycle at all just may add some water weight. imo id front the eq wks 1-14, do dbol wk 3-7 and test wk 3-14. your first few wks will not be noticed but if you run it that way once your done with the dbol, the test and eq will be running strong! just my .02 id rather have the lag in the beginning than wait for eq.

Originally Posted by svtxtreme

I agree that EPO is not for me. I am at a good level for my age. I finish most races either foot or bike in the top 10 for my age. It is not my full time job and no one is paying me to do it. I train (run, bike, swim) hard and often 5 days week. (it might be my therapy) I just think I can be better ( better for me!!!) It is really about pushing myself and coming in faster then the times before. As far as the mass goes it is again me being my own worst critic and wanting to look more fit. Gym time is 530am 4 days a week with trainer to build mass and strength.

1. I would like to stick with EQ and extend the time on both to 15 weeks
2. Reduce Clomid to 200 on day 1
3. If you feel it will not interfer I would like to keep dbol for the mass?
4. start test week 3.
5. i just added 2 Up Your Mass shakes to my day so brings my cal up to about 4200

everything stays the same?

1. You'll enjoy EQ for 15 weeks
2. sounds much better
3. It shouldn't interfere with much, but may slow your times down for a little while, but you'll get them back a few weeks after you stop the Dbol.
4.Start Test at the same time as the EQ, not three weeks in.
5. Great shakes, but a lot of people have reviewed them with digestion problems. I didn't have any problems, and loved the shakes.

EPO is a bit extreme, but I thought I might recommend it.

Originally Posted by svtxtreme

also should I stop anything here while on?

fishoil x 2 aday
Mike thistle x 2 aday
glutamine x6 a day
creatine post gym
BCAA x3 scoops (1 scoop with each protein shake)
animal pac multi x1 pac
true mas proteinx 3 shakes a day
Up your mass x2 shakes a day

^ thats pretty much exactly what im taking right now execpt i also take tourine, proviron, super dmz, and advanced cycle suuport. i also changed a few things (in bold) as to what i take so no i dont see why you would have to stop taking those. listed above is wht i take and pretty much how i take it. the rest of the stuff idk about. as far as gear im only taking test E nothign else

Pin the test one week longer than the eq. I'm on a really similar cycle right now, however I'm gonna do 20+ weeks.

anxious one is correct the more conventional way to run would be wk 1-4 dbol, wk 1-15 eq, etc. I run test throughout the eq cycle to keep libido up, eq destroys mine. So i have found if i don't want to run test that long i start eq early since it isn't noticed for atleast 4 or more wks, i think i notice eq at wk 6.

Originally Posted by littlekev

anxious one is correct the more conventional way to run would be wk 1-4 dbol, wk 1-15 eq, etc. I run test throughout the eq cycle to keep libido up, eq destroys mine. So i have found if i don't want to run test that long i start eq early since it isn't noticed for atleast 4 or more wks, i think i notice eq at wk 6.

That makes sense,
EQ kills my sex drive so I always run the Test with it.

How I usually do test is: Start with both long-ester test with the EQ, but I pin Test prop, or TNE for the first 3weeks. To finish the cycle, (with EQ i go for 20 like vibrant) I use Test prop, or TNE for a week and a half after stopping the EQ...
Bold base is hard to find, but I can't wait to run it in the beginning and at the end like I do the TESP P or TNE.

That was great info. OK I have read everyones posts. I looking at the options and readjusting everything. I will post up the full cycle in the AM after I write it down and get my thoughts straight.

Thanks again. I dont feel so overwhelmed now.

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Originally Posted by svtxtreme

That was great info. OK I have read everyones posts. I looking at the options and readjusting everything. I will post up the full cycle in the AM after I write it down and get my thoughts straight.

Thanks again. I dont feel so overwhelmed now.

I spend hours on this site ive already started my cycle and still feel overwelmed lmao. oh btw i think youll have some serious trouble cycling if the svt in your name has anything to do with a ford lightning, if its an svt cobra or somthign else ull be okay at best... LMAO

Originally Posted by sofargone561

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I spend hours on this site ive already started my cycle and still feel overwelmed lmao. oh btw i think youll have some serious trouble cycling if the svt in your name has anything to do with a ford lightning, if its an svt cobra or somthign else ull be okay at best... LMAO

SVT Cobra but old school 93 Yellow with White soft top. 386 to rear wheels with Kenny Bell Super charger and 327 stroker with AFR Heads! I am original owner. Doesnt go out much anymore though. The good old days of street racing are gone, but i still have Bristol about 20 minutes away when I feel the need.