Thread: Solo Super DMZ run!

thats some crazy nolva dosages.. do u actually mean clomid?

Nope, I ran it 50/50/50/50 for the H-drol cycle, so I was thinking of doing the same. It was suggested to run it 50/50/25/25 but the caps came in 50 (I believe it's mcg?) so I just went with one cap a day, which is what I am thinking of doing here.

Originally Posted by Culler

Nope, I ran it 50/50/50/50 for the H-drol cycle, so I was thinking of doing the same. It was suggested to run it 50/50/25/25 but the caps came in 50 (I believe it's mcg?) so I just went with one cap a day, which is what I am thinking of doing here.

That's WAY too high for Nolvadex. For your cycle, 20/20/10/10 would suffice...


I also never heard of Nolva coming in 50mg caps...it does sound like clomid to me.

Sorry, you are totally right, just pulled them out, it's actually 20mg caps. I will just run it 20/20/20/20.

Not sure if youre ready for another cycle considering you don't know proper doses of pct and didnt know doses last pct you ran..
best of luck and keep researching

Originally Posted by Jt123

Not sure if youre ready for another cycle considering you don't know proper doses of pct and didnt know doses last pct you ran..
best of luck and keep researching

As I said, it was a simple mistake, I know the dosage for both Clomid & Nolva, I've been reading multiple forums for nearly 2 years now, researched the f... out of my first run of H-drol, and did the same for this one. Pretty confident I'm 'ready' for this...

I went back at had a look at my notes for both the frist run, and this one and it looks good. Wish I was running test with it, but I'm not ready for it yet, still have some reading to do.

As I appreciate your comment, it was a simple error, I got the two (most common PCT choices) confused.

Originally Posted by Jt123

Not sure if youre ready for another cycle considering you don't know proper doses of pct and didnt know doses last pct you ran..
best of luck and keep researching

This and the fact ur running super dmz as your second cycle. That shit is way to advanced for a second cycle.

Originally Posted by Culler

As I said, it was a simple mistake, I know the dosage for both Clomid & Nolva, I've been reading multiple forums for nearly 2 years now, researched the f... out of my first run of H-drol, and did the same for this one. Pretty confident I'm 'ready' for this...

I went back at had a look at my notes for both the frist run, and this one and it looks good. Wish I was running test with it, but I'm not ready for it yet, still have some reading to do.

As I appreciate your comment, it was a simple error, I got the two (most common PCT choices) confused.

Bro you haven't researched enough then , becUse super dmz is alot harsher on your body then test but you say your not ready for it? Then your not ready for this stacked compound yet either.

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

This and the fact ur running super dmz as your second cycle. That shit is way to advanced for a second cycle.

Ok, what would you suggest?

I honestly feel that this will be more then fine. I have been lifting a long time, and felt the H-drol I ran before was weak. But, I posted this for these comments.

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

Bro you haven't researched enough then , becUse super dmz is alot harsher on your body then test but you say your not ready for it? Then your not ready for this stacked compound yet either.

I understand that it's much more harsh on the body the Test is, but I am not knowledged enough with injecting, needle gauge, sites, etc.

I know that it being a stacked compound of Superdrol, it will be very strong, but if all the supporting supplements are in place, I don't see what the problem is. Maybe I'm missing it...

I've been pre-loading Milk Thistle for two weeks, cycle assist for a week, I have my diet in check, I don't know. Is there another non-injectable compound you'd suggest? I hate to sound like 'that guy' but I've been researching & reading a long time (2+ years) on this and wasn't expecting these kinds of comments.

Take the directed dosages. Eat heavy but clean. Supplement with Protein shakes in addition to the new food amounts. Supplement with twice as much h20 as you think you will need---heavy compound movements---and go for the bulk. Leave the cardio and the "sculpting" at the door.

Expect some back pumps (week 2...late week 2), lethargy is cured with carbs, and expect to gain. People take alot of heat over the Nolva vs. Clomid issue. I can only tell you what I did/do---Clomid after cycle and Nolva on hand in case I can't stop rubbing my left nipple. (did not need the Nolva during my dmz cycle and I am sort of prone to gyno at high dosages of juice). (insert disclaimer here---this is just my 2 pennies worth of experience---I think we over analyze at times).

Now...the great news is that you will love the strength/stamina/recovery so lift smart.

I will definitely be on the DMZ again in the early part of next year---I really enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by Culler

Ok, what would you suggest?

I honestly feel that this will be more then fine. I have been lifting a long time, and felt the H-drol I ran before was weak. But, I posted this for these comments.

I would suggest you go get some Epi an run that or even another hdrol w maybe a 11oxo bridge Hdrol is not weak, not even Close. You said u kept 7 pounds in 6 weeks, that's pretty damn good bro.

It's like going from smoking weed to shooting heroin, take it easy and don't rush this shit or u will end of regretting it.

Super dmz and mdrol to me are a waste run without a test base. I have done them solo and w a test base and it's not even close. Worlds apart as far as gains, keeping them and how u feel on cycle. 4 weeks is just not enough time to gain that much muscle.

Run something milder and longer and read up more on test and then use the dmz to kickstart the test cycle if you want. That's the best advice I can give you and it beats putting your body through hell to keep less then half your gains.

And if your gonna run the dmz anyway there is no reason to use and anti E on cycle, both are very dry and don't aromitize. All it will lead to is your joints hurting like hell.
Run Nolva 30/20/20/10 and last week add in the AI and taper that down over 3-4 weeks.

Originally Posted by 258884

Take the directed dosages. Eat heavy but clean. Supplement with Protein shakes in addition to the new food amounts. Supplement with twice as much h20 as you think you will need---heavy compound movements---and go for the bulk. Leave the cardio and the "sculpting" at the door.

Expect some back pumps (week 2...late week 2), lethargy is cured with carbs, and expect to gain. People take alot of heat over the Nolva vs. Clomid issue. I can only tell you what I did/do---Clomid after cycle and Nolva on hand in case I can't stop rubbing my left nipple. (did not need the Nolva during my dmz cycle and I am sort of prone to gyno at high dosages of juice). (insert disclaimer here---this is just my 2 pennies worth of experience---I think we over analyze at times).

Now...the great news is that you will love the strength/stamina/recovery so lift smart.

I will definitely be on the DMZ again in the early part of next year---I really enjoyed it.

This.

Gained ten lean lbs. on both of my Super-DMZ Rx cycles. The cycles where almost a year apart and each was for four weeks.

This product works.

Originally Posted by Curt James

This.

Gained ten lean lbs. on both of my Super-DMZ Rx cycles. The cycles where almost a year apart and each was for four weeks.

This product works.

yes^ im on week to and im up 8 pounds. i have nothing bad to say at all about this product so far except the lathargy kills me. also a word of advice buy tourine and and drink LOTS of water. i wasnt drinking nearly enough water and i was getting terrible back pumps. i upped my water doasge and they almost went away. added a little tourine and bam all gone. =)

Myself, like Culler, ran an Hdrol only cycle and had some decent gains. But after researching a shit load on here, a few other forums, and talking to a bunch of my bros who have taken m-drol i feel like im ready for the DMZ. One question though, would you guys recommend a test booster while ON cycle or with the PCT?

Originally Posted by Hammer925

Myself, like Culler, ran an Hdrol only cycle and had some decent gains. But after researching a shit load on here, a few other forums, and talking to a bunch of my bros who have taken m-drol i feel like im ready for the DMZ. One question though, would you guys recommend a test booster while ON cycle or with the PCT?

You know dmz and mdrol are two different products right? Dmz is Dymethazine and mdrol is superdrol.
Super dmz is a stack of both and for a second cycle is just retarded.

Originally Posted by Culler

As I said, it was a simple mistake, I know the dosage for both Clomid & Nolva, I've been reading multiple forums for nearly 2 years now, researched the f... out of my first run of H-drol, and did the same for this one. Pretty confident I'm 'ready' for this...

I went back at had a look at my notes for both the frist run, and this one and it looks good. Wish I was running test with it, but I'm not ready for it yet, still have some reading to do.

As I appreciate your comment, it was a simple error, I got the two (most common PCT choices) confused.

i understand people make mistakes as they are human but you even mentioned them dosed in mcg?..just be careful and i would save superdmz for a future cycle (most likely with test) i'd get some epi or even m14add and run that..superdrol made me feel like complete shit without a test base.

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

You know dmz and mdrol are two different products right? Dmz is Dymethazine and mdrol is superdrol.
Super dmz is a stack of both and for a second cycle is just retarded.

I fully understand they are 2 different phs, but they are similar compounds. Whats so retarded about it?

Originally Posted by Hammer925

I fully understand they are 2 different phs, but they are similar compounds. Whats so retarded about it?

its simply retarded for the fact that you dont need a stack of orals as a second cycle..yes they are similar (dymethazine has 2 superdrol molecules) but the shutdown will be harsher..superdrol shuts downs hard on its own..and you havent tried either one of the compounds so why not start with dzine or mdrol and see how you react before you start stacking products that you do not need..keep researching my friend

Originally Posted by Culler

I understand that it's much more harsh on the body the Test is, but I am not knowledged enough with injecting, needle gauge, sites, etc.

I know that it being a stacked compound of Superdrol, it will be very strong, but if all the supporting supplements are in place, I don't see what the problem is. Maybe I'm missing it...

I've been pre-loading Milk Thistle for two weeks, cycle assist for a week, I have my diet in check, I don't know. Is there another non-injectable compound you'd suggest? I hate to sound like 'that guy' but I've been researching & reading a long time (2+ years) on this and wasn't expecting these kinds of comments.

Wk 1-4 Super DMZ 2caps ED
Wk 5-8 Nolva 20/20/10/10

SuperDMZ is a great product, and you will enjoy running it.

Originally Posted by Jt123

its simply retarded for the fact that you dont need a stack of orals as a second cycle..yes they are similar (dymethazine has 2 superdrol molecules) but the shutdown will be harsher..superdrol shuts downs hard on its own..and you havent tried either one of the compounds so why not start with dzine or mdrol and see how you react before you start stacking products that you do not need..keep researching my friend

Exactly.

No reason this needs to be run as a second cycle when the Op can't even get his pct dose correct and is also running an AI on cycle when neither compound can aromitize. If you have done your research then you would know this.

Fact is unless you plan on pinning after this , all your future cycles will for the most part be a huge let down. 4 week cycles are a waste if you do not know what your doing Will you gain alot in the 4 weeks , no doubt , but good luck keeping the gains when it's obvious you guys need to do more research.

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

Exactly.

No reason this needs to be run as a second cycle when the Op can't even get his pct dose correct and is also running an AI on cycle when neither compound can aromitize. If you have done your research then you would know this.

Fact is unless you plan on pinning after this , all your future cycles will for the most part be a huge let down. 4 week cycles are a waste if you do not know what your doing Will you gain alot in the 4 weeks , no doubt , but good luck keeping the gains when it's obvious you guys need to do more research.

Easy, bro. The OP is just getting his feet wet with a four week DS cycle, which is where most people start. He has a good plan in place and has done considerable research, as evidenced by his support supps. He was also smart enough to post questions on this board to get further clarification and to ensure that his cycle was g2g.

There is no reason why the OP can't make considerable gains on a four week cycle of SuperDMZ and keep them, if his diet and training is dialed in.

Alot of good conversation here, thanks for all the comments.

I may be stubborn or stupid (maybe both), but I am going ahead with the DMZ as I feel 100% comfortable with it and am REALLY pumped about what is coming over the next four weeks. I train crazy hard, and love lifting what I can! I'm really looking forward to the strength gains and wheight gains I can make.

My diet is looking good, lots of good food, tons of water, taurine is already being supp'd with my protein (thanks for the mention who ever it was, but I learned that with the H-drol, water and Taurine were my best friends).

I do hoever have a question, and it's because of the research I did, and even on Iron Mag Labs initial 'cycle example' it was recommended to take E-control Rx with it. I understand that neither compound can aromitize, so why would it be said to take with? I have it and took it yesterday and today, but if it's not required and serves no purpose, I will save it for future use.

On an update, nothing to report as it is only day 2. Mentally, I have been pumping my mind up and keeping me motivated for the ride so I am feeling pretty good right now.

Originally Posted by Culler

Alot of good conversation here, thanks for all the comments.

I may be stubborn or stupid (maybe both), but I am going ahead with the DMZ as I feel 100% comfortable with it and am REALLY pumped about what is coming over the next four weeks. I train crazy hard, and love lifting what I can! I'm really looking forward to the strength gains and wheight gains I can make.

My diet is looking good, lots of good food, tons of water, taurine is already being supp'd with my protein (thanks for the mention who ever it was, but I learned that with the H-drol, water and Taurine were my best friends).

I do hoever have a question, and it's because of the research I did, and even on Iron Mag Labs initial 'cycle example' it was recommended to take E-control Rx with it. I understand that neither compound can aromitize, so why would it be said to take with? I have it and took it yesterday and today, but if it's not required and serves no purpose, I will save it for future use.

On an update, nothing to report as it is only day 2. Mentally, I have been pumping my mind up and keeping me motivated for the ride so I am feeling pretty good right now.

Hey man not trying to be a dick and I am only talking from experience w all this shit. So I'll back off since you started already, eat big and lift heavy and you will no doubt make some great gains. Just don't be upset if you lose alot of your gains. It can be kinda depressing going from throwing heavy ass weights around one week then week by week getting a bit weaker. It's gonna happen just don't get discouraged.

The anti e is not needed and prob just a way to sell more and make more money. Save for pct

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

Hey man not trying to be a dick and I am only talking from experience w all this shit. So I'll back off since you started already, eat big and lift heavy and you will no doubt make some great gains. Just don't be upset if you lose alot of your gains. It can be kinda depressing going from throwing heavy ass weights around one week then week by week getting a bit weaker. It's gonna happen just don't get discouraged.

The anti e is not needed and prob just a way to sell more and make more money. Save for pct

Hey bro, no offense taken from eny of your posts, I respect your opinions, that is the whole reason I started this thread. I plan on killing the weights, always go 110% at the gym, and this will be no exception. I found with a little extra work I kept a lot of my strength gains after the H-drol cycle, lost some of the size, but also kept a bit so I was happy after that. I will try and do the same here, we'll see how it goes!

Can't wait to hit it hard tonight, legs will take a beating!

So what would you guys recommend..running a test booster during the cycle, during pct, or never? Or?

Originally Posted by Hammer925

So what would you guys recommend..running a test booster during the cycle, during pct, or never? Or?

Running it the whole cycle would be a waste. A test booster needs test to boost and a ph shuts down your natural production.

Get some daa( testforce2). Run that last week of cycle so it can build up in you and run it through out pct.

Originally Posted by Jlive1980

Running it the whole cycle would be a waste. A test booster needs test to boost and a ph shuts down your natural production.

Get some daa( testforce2). Run that last week of cycle so it can build up in you and run it through out pct.

^^ agree

Culler goodluck with your cycle. no doubt that you will make great gains and hopefully maintain a good amount after pct..just keep researching test and hopefully you'll feel confident enough to take the plunge before you run too many ph's..kill the weights my friend