Thread: Cycle advise

You should always use HCG and an AI
HCG at 500iu twice a week
Aromasin-start at 12.5 mg eod or:
Adex-.5 mg eod.

Ok, thank you for the advice. I knew that it was recommended but i thought the AI would be only if you needed it. As i am not showing any signs of gyno. But i will start right away with the HCG to help ease pct when time comes and use the AI to help with water retention. Thanks again for the advice.

The AI doesn't just keep gyno away, but it keeps the bloat down which helps w bp, and keeping your estradiol levels in the male range prevents sexual side effects too.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

You should always use HCG and an AI
HCG at 500iu twice a week
Aromasin-start at 12.5 mg eod or:
Adex-.5 mg eod.

^Solid advice right here.




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[QUOTE=exphysiologist88;2540080]The AI doesn't just keep gyno away, but it keeps the bloat down which helps w bp, and keeping your estradiol levels in the male range prevents sexual side effects too.

I will start as soon as i can. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. If I'm not mistaking, I can run about that same amount of HCG for my PCT as well since i will have been running it 3-4 weeks by that time anyhow.

Not sure if it's the best of ideas to continue to run the HCG during PCT bro.



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If it were me, I'd run 1000 iu eod for the first 10 days after last pin, then stop 4 days before starting your pct.
HCG is for on cycle and pre pct if running long esters.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

If it were me, I'd run 1000 iu eod for the first 10 days after last pin, then stop 4 days before starting your pct.
HCG is for on cycle and pre pct if running long esters.

Well W.T.F. here I am 4 weeks into a cycle after literally 10 months of reading and planning this and just now finding this out, how embarrassing for me. I'm glad you guys said something I thought it was all good to run it all the way through pct in a smaller dose if you had been running it during cycle. Well there goes part of my pct plans, heading back to the drawing board for my pct that's coming in 5 weeks. Thanks for not letting me make that mistake, as i know pct is just as important as diet and training. How frustrating to find out i didn't do a good enough job researching.

HCG is suppressive, that's why it's a no-no during pct. you should read heavys first cycle stickie.

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Originally Posted by AK49er

Hey guys, I just finished week 4 of 10 week test e/deca cycle, and have been thinking of including some hcg and maybe a AA to help control water retention. What do you all think ? Stats are currently 180/5' 8/12% bf. BF has gone up more than I wanted thus far. I started upping calories at week one which for me was too soon. I am just worried of stacking too many compunds at once, if not necessary.

Only 10 weeks and you're running Deca? You needed to research your cycle more. You need to run your Deca at least 12 weeks, and your test for two weeks long than your Deca.

You might also want to pick up some caber to prevent prolactin sides since you're running Deca which is a 19 Nor.

Originally Posted by AK49er

Well W.T.F. here I am 4 weeks into a cycle after literally 10 months of reading and planning this and just now finding this out, how embarrassing for me. I'm glad you guys said something I thought it was all good to run it all the way through pct in a smaller dose if you had been running it during cycle. Well there goes part of my pct plans, heading back to the drawing board for my pct that's coming in 5 weeks. Thanks for not letting me make that mistake, as i know pct is just as important as diet and training. How frustrating to find out i didn't do a good enough job researching.

It's not that bad bro., I've defintly seen worse on here, including me!
I was all out of wack when I first came, but the more you read, n post askin' what u need help in- the better off...so, really, don't be too hard on urself..

Originally Posted by M4A3

Only 10 weeks and you're running Deca? You needed to research your cycle more. You need to run your Deca at least 12 weeks, and your test for two weeks long than your Deca.

You might also want to pick up some caber to prevent prolactin sides since you're running Deca which is a 19 Nor.

Thank you for all the replies, anyone else confirm that I should stretch my cycle longer than 10 weeks because I am running deca ? I just didn't want to cycle too long which is why I choose 10 weeks. I know to stop the deca 2 weeks prior to the test but i also know the longer the cycle the more difficult it is to recover.

You don't have to run deca 12 weeks, it's just deca kicks in so damn slow that most run it longer to make the most of the cycle. Yes Deca should be stopped two weeks prior but it isnt' nearly as hard to recover from as tren. You need to run anti-prolactin like caber or prami just in case. If you're enjoying the gains and have enough compound left, go for it.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

You should always use HCG and an AI
HCG at 500iu twice a week
Aromasin-start at 12.5 mg eod or:
Adex-.5 mg eod.

Ok, I have HCG and Aromasin otw can you give me guidance on mixing the HCG. I have done some research a few months back on it but some help would be much appreciated.

Originally Posted by AK49er

can you give me guidance on mixing the HCG.

Get a hold of some bac water, it will make it last longer than the solution that's in the box (if using Pregnyl). You can dose it a million ways pending how much bac water you add to the powder, just be sure your math is right.




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I mix it w 5 ml's of bac water, if using 5000 ius. This makes the math easiest for me. 1 cc or 100 clicks on a slin pin is equal to 1000 iu.

Ok, thank you for the info. also I wanted to know if use 12.5 mg aromasin eod which sounds like a lot to me how much will it cut into my gains from cycle ?

Originally Posted by AK49er

Ok, thank you for the info. also I wanted to know if use 12.5 mg aromasin eod which sounds like a lot to me how much will it cut into my gains from cycle ?

It won't cut your gains. It will just keep the bloat down and keep you from getting bitch tits.

LOL, ok just checkin

Have had serious lifters say you do not even need a cutting cycle if you eat right and keep your estrogen under control. After about 6 years of experience I thiink they are right. Most new guys do not pay attention to estrogen control while on cycle and their diet suffers also because they are hungry and getting large. Diet discipline and estrogen control are as important to me as which/how long supplements I am using. Eat clean, take an AI and have fun man.

Could I use Arimidex instead of Aromasin as my AI? At what dosage/how often?

Originally Posted by acemon

Could I use Arimidex instead of Aromasin as my AI? At what dosage/how often?

adex or aromasin can be used on cycle as an AI, but the recommendation is to use aromasin for pct.

Originally Posted by AK49er

Ok, I have HCG and Aromasin otw can you give me guidance on mixing the HCG. I have done some research a few months back on it but some help would be much appreciated.

there's a ton of videos on youtube and you can follow along

Originally Posted by banker23

there's a ton of videos on youtube and you can follow along

Thanks bro, I will watch and learn