Reply With QuoteConsider buying a box of 50 or 100 18ga or 20ga needles (w/o syringes) to draw with then pin with then 23ga or 25ga. If the stuff is as thick as it sounds, you can probably plan on pinning with a 23ga.
Needle Size?
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11-07-2011, 10:28 AM #1Registered User
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Needle Size?
I just started my first cycle today. All the prep has gone smoothly so far but I ran into a problem with the needle and the cypiobolic today. I have been told before that a 23 or a 25g needle would work fine but I just tried it with my 25g and it too 20 min to draw which I am guessing the oil is too thick for the needle. Any one else have this problem and what needle did you end up using that worked?? Any help is appreciated!
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11-07-2011, 10:31 AM #2Sancho
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11-07-2011, 10:33 AM #3Chemically Engineered ELITE MEMBER
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^^^ this
Dont draw with the same needle you inject, even penetrating the vial stopper can blunt the needle a bit, and drawing with a 25g will be slow as dirt.
Buy some 20-21g needles to draw with switch pins to your 25 and go to town." In my opinion your success is not determined by the scale or the mirror, but by what adversity did you have to overcome to achieve what you have thus far. "
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11-07-2011, 10:34 AM #4Registered User
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Make sure the oil is not cold before drawing...stand it in a cup of warm water for a minute or so to reduce the viscosity. I draw with 23g and plunge with 25g no problemo
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^^^exactly right^^^
Do not keep them in the fridge. It thickens them.
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11-07-2011, 10:40 AM #7Registered User
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I use 23g for drawing and pinning and never have a problem either way. I hate tearing up the rubber with the 18g needles.
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11-07-2011, 10:41 AM #8Sancho
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I recently picked up a box of 18ga needles to load oil based palcebos and couldn't belive how fast they draw and how much of vacuum they can produce.
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11-07-2011, 10:42 AM #9Sancho
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Originally Posted by pebble
^^^It will leave some tiny tears in the rubber but I have yet see them not reseal.If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face
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11-07-2011, 10:53 AM #10Registered User
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I guess it depends on how many times you are going into a bottle. Originally Posted by Big Pimpin
I have seen chunks missing from some of my buddies stuff. But he could just be rough with his shit.
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11-07-2011, 10:54 AM #11Sancho
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Originally Posted by pebble
Good point.If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face
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11-07-2011, 12:05 PM #12the oncoming storm
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this...though I've been using 18's to draw; will have to watch for chunks of rubber to be safe. Originally Posted by GMO
One more thing I have not seen anyone mention:
draw air into the syringe first like 1 ml if that is what you are going to draw then penetrate the vial and depress the stopper injecting the air into the vial. This will create some pressure inside the vial that will force the oil into the syringe.
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Giving us a little more info will help. Cypiobolic should go fine through that size. What conditions did you keep the gear under?
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use 18 or 20 g for drawing and 23 for injecting. In my opinion there is no reason to use 25g during cycle, unless you are on trt.
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I couldn't have said this better myself. 18g is a harpoon and ruins the stopper real quick. 20g to draw, 25g to pin (22g on my glutes though). Originally Posted by GMO
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I draw with 18-20g and use 27g 1 1/4 and 30g 1"
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I use 23g to draw and pin.. ive never had any problems...
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I don't see much of a difference, visually, between a 22 and 23g... how long does it take to pin 1ml of sus or test-e w/ a 25g?
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