Thread: Prop questions

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Alright, I'm going to try to switch to prop exclusively and had a few questions:

-I know ED injections are optimal, but how many do EOD with good results?

-If doing EOD, is it possible to do 2 ml's of test prop 100 in one shot, or will that be extremely painful?

-How long after last pin do you start pct?

-I'll be running HCG on cycle, do I need to increase my HCG dose right before PCT?

thanks

EOD is perfect for prop!

2ml is fine, no problem there, the pain just depends on how well it is made. Most prop I have used has been pretty much painless, but some cause more pip.

Ill let somebody else take the other 2....

Pct starts 3-4 days after last injection.

Ran Test Prop on last cycle with some NPP EOD and enjoyed it. I did shoot 1cc of Prop 100mg/ml just to see if the pain was for real and it hurt like fucken hell in my delt for like 2 days. I always mixed it with the NPP the rest of the cycle. Running it again with Tren and Mast on this current cycle and dont even feel it.

I ran the HCG the entire cycle at 250iu's twice per week, but I did pin the HCG at 250iu's ED between last shot of Prop and start of PCT.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Alright, I'm going to try to switch to prop exclusively and had a few questions:

-I know ED injections are optimal, but how many do EOD with good results?EOD is fine

-If doing EOD, is it possible to do 2 ml's of test prop 100 in one shot, or will that be extremely painful?I have never found the amount of ml's to effect pain. The pain comes from the amount of BA in the mix with prop.

-How long after last pin do you start pct?3-4 days after last pin

-I'll be running HCG on cycle, do I need to increase my HCG dose right before PCT?I have never changed my PCT amounts of HCG, Clomid, and Nolva when using Prop. For the days between you last pin and PCT run HCG at 1000iu - 2500iu EOD but then run normal PCT doses.

thanks

If you have questions on your PCT post up what you are planning.

Sorry, I posted this yesterday:

Stats:
32 y/o
5'8"
210
16% bf- will get down to 12% before starting this cycle
2 cycles
Training off and on for 12 years
Masters degree in exercise physiology

Cycle:
1-10-Test prop 700 mg/week
1-10-var 75 mg/day
HCG-500 iu twice weekly
Aromasin-start at 12.5 mg ED
Pct-as outlined by heavy, plus nolva

Goals-lean bulk, decrease bf slightly

Originally Posted by big60235

If you have questions on your PCT post up what you are planning.

I've always read that you should stop HCG 4 days before starting PCT. This would require me to blast 1000 iu EOD during the last week of my cycle. Any thoughts?

Dude 700mg of prop is A LOT! I kick start with 300mg/wk and that's a nice light dose. If I were to run it solo I'd do it at 500-600mg.

I'd just blast 1000iu of HCG EOD during the last week of the cycle and stop taking the HCG with my last pin of prop then start PCT as normal 4 days later.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Dude 700mg of prop is A LOT! I kick start with 300mg/wk and that's a nice light dose. If I were to run it solo I'd do it at 500-600mg.

I'd just blast 1000iu of HCG EOD during the last week of the cycle and stop taking the HCG with my last pin of prop then start PCT as normal 4 days later.

I forget about prop being more actual test and less ester. Maybe 700 is a lot. I am only running it with var though.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I forget about prop being more actual test and less ester. Maybe 700 is a lot. I am only running it with var though.

I understand but I would say to cut back on the dose and see where that takes you. You can always up the dose. Besides I remember you saying you have bad E2 sides.

I was gonna ask why you didn't add another compound in there? Mast? Tren?

Yeah, I think 600 would be more reasonable too.

And, after running a blast-cruise-blast I am disappointed in myself, so I decided to try a more conservative approach w shorter cycles and reasonable dosages. So, no 19 nors for me, and I'll try to keep cycles under 10 weeks and just use prop.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Yeah, I think 600 would be more reasonable too.

And, after running a blast-cruise-blast I am disappointed in myself, so I decided to try a more conservative approach w shorter cycles and reasonable dosages. So, no 19 nors for me, and I'll try to keep cycles under 10 weeks and just use prop.

100% understand. I'm a little mad at myself also. My last cycle got a little out of hand and I need to make sure I recover 100%. I'm gonna do a 10wk short ester run next time also. I think that might be the way to roll.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I'd just blast 1000iu of HCG EOD during the last week of the cycle and stop taking the HCG with my last pin of prop then start PCT as normal 4 days later.

This is what I was trying to type but my lack of mental clarity from zero coffee was interfering with my outcome.



Now I am ready to take on the day!!!!! I would also think about starting out at a lighter dose 400-500 to see how you take to it. You can always up the dose and since it a short ester it's responds quickly. If I start out on high mg and it's going bad I mentally have a hard time reducing the mg's. It's always easier to up the dose for me.

JMO

Most any prop will hurt because of the ester. If it doesn't unless you know it doesn't bother you anymore, I would think the gear was bunk.

Originally Posted by ZECH

Most any prop will hurt because of the ester. If it doesn't unless you know it doesn't bother you anymore, I would think the gear was bunk.

Apparently some people are more sensitive to it than others. Personally I've tried 3 different brands and none have hurt me.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Apparently some people are more sensitive to it than others. Personally I've tried 3 different brands and none have hurt me.

True. Some people it doesn't, but most it does. It doesnt cripple me like some, but I get a little sore.