Thread: no sides. should i increase ?

If you are getting good results so far, I'd recommend staying at the same dose and then when gains slow, you can up the dose.

By the way, what is your planned cycle? Also, just so you know, as per the board rules you have to post stats to receive cycle advice.

5'8" 137lbs. Probably 15% bodyfat. I would like to gain a little quality muscle and drop my bodyfat to around 9.5%-10% I am doing 10-12 wees of primobolan and albuterol every other week 2.5 mg 4 times daily. I have been lifting for 5 years. I hit it hard october through march and then during he summer months I pretty much maintain with outdoor farm work with animals. I train abd show horses and we have steers and pigs. Diet is pretty good although I need to lay off the kids candy every now and again. I do cardio 3-4 days a week for 45-60 minutes. I have competed once in a NPC bikini class. Not sure if i am going to compete again or not. Depends on how i look and feel in the spring. Is there anything that I forgot?

3rd week may be a little early to tell on the sides, I'm assuming its a long ester. I'd give it a couple more weeks at the current dose and go from there. Keep diet tight and you can cut and maintain muscle or eat more and gain lean mass without dropping fat but I think dropping 5% bf and gaining muscle is a stretch. Unless things are just completely different for girls haha.

Only compound that can recomp like that is tren. Good luck with the primo, it's supposed to be an amazing compound. I haven't run it due to my shallow pockets and tendency to require horse sized doses.

Stay at the dose your at.... No need to use more then is needed. Also no need to make or get sides for a little extra muscle when the cycle is goin great as it is.

Originally Posted by lisarox

In my 3rd week of primo @ 50mg/week. No sides and good strength gains and workouts feel great. My libido hasn't gone through the roof though like I was hoping. Usually when im hitting the gym hard, I want it 3 or more times a day. Now my husband is lucky to get it once a day. Should I try to increase the primo to 75mg/ week or just keep it @ 50mg/ week with the idea of " if it ain't broke....... don't fix it"

If you are making gains, there is no reason to increase your dose. Primo does not enhance libido in all females. You may not experience this side at all, or it may still manifest down the road. Remember also that Primo is an enanthate ester, which will not fully kick in until weeks 3-4, depending on the individual. Let's hope for your hubby's sake that you get that benefit within the next couple weeks.

Thanks all. Good to know that it could still happen. Of course libido isn't the reason I wanted to dabble into aas. It is just one of the perks. I do have the theory that why fix something that works so keeping it @ 50 makes sense to me. Im not looking for any negative sides but they could very well happen if I am too busy chasing the positive sides. I suppose this is how people come to abuse steroids. Lol

Originally Posted by lisarox

Thanks all. Good to know that it could still happen. Of course libido isn't the reason I wanted to dabble into aas. It is just one of the perks. I do have the theory that why fix something that works so keeping it @ 50 makes sense to me. Im not looking for any negative sides but they could very well happen if I am too busy chasing the positive sides. I suppose this is how people come to abuse steroids. Lol

You taken low enough dose that you should be in bad shape ,cause primo can have some serious side effects. Primo is not a big size builder , of course no matter what you are on you have to work hard to put that elusive size. From your stats you can use some more size . Not sure what type of competitions you like to do but for BB you going to need a lot more size. I am in strength sports and i weigh the same is you. At some point you may want to add some Var to see how it effects you and your training, or combine both.
Good luck

Originally Posted by hooper

You taken low enough dose that you should be in bad shape ,cause primo can have some serious side effects. Primo is not a big size builder , of course no matter what you are on you have to work hard to put that elusive size. From your stats you can use some more size . Not sure what type of competitions you like to do but for BB you going to need a lot more size. I am in strength sports and i weigh the same is you. At some point you may want to add some Var to see how it effects you and your training, or combine both.
Good luck

Not sure of it is a typing error or not but I was wondering why you think I should be in bad shape with the low dose I am taking? I am not looking to put on a whole lot of size. Mostly tighten up and cut and add a little quality muscle. I competed in NPC bikini 2 years ago. I have thought about figure but I don't think I have the size for that either and to tell you the truth, after doing the bikini class, I really like it and have no desire to change. However, if for some reason I come out looking too big for bikini, I will go up to figure. But I highly doubt I will have to. Especially since it is so hard for me to maintain muscle size due to having Ulcerative Colitis . I have tried var before and had to quit it a week in because it was causing severe abdominal pain and nausea. Thank you for input. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

My girlfriend has Ulcerative Colitis. I know for a fact that shit is no fun.

How's the primo treatin ya lisarox?

Originally Posted by lisarox

In my 3rd week of primo @ 50mg/week. No sides and good strength gains and workouts feel great. My libido hasn't gone through the roof though like I was hoping. Usually when im hitting the gym hard, I want it 3 or more times a day. Now my husband is lucky to get it once a day. Should I try to increase the primo to 75mg/ week or just keep it @ 50mg/ week with the idea of " if it ain't broke....... don't fix it"

I would stay at the dose you are at. Its too early to tell.

If you want libido increases then you may consider a bit of prop next time. 10mg Prop 3 times per week.

just a comment, but i think most people confuse "libido" as mentally wanting to have sex and not necessarily libido as erections and physically ready for sex......there's a difference and even though gear can help with the physical, many times it doesn't carry over mentally for some users.....there's many factors that could affect it.....

I dunno I get an erection about the same on or off, but I think about it alot more with more test. It's like more of a sexually "aggressive" feeling rather than just getting hard easier, though I think it's harder when it is lol. I've also been running letro for about two months so maybe I've just forgotten what it's like to have a normal drive...

If your liver doesn't quiver , and your bladder doesn't splatter, increase the dosage because it doesn't really matter.

^ by that motto you might as well jump on some test and see what real libido is like...

Originally Posted by hooper

You taken low enough dose that you should be in bad shape ,cause primo can have some serious side effects. Primo is not a big size builder , of course no matter what you are on you have to work hard to put that elusive size. From your stats you can use some more size . Not sure what type of competitions you like to do but for BB you going to need a lot more size. I am in strength sports and i weigh the same is you. At some point you may want to add some Var to see how it effects you and your training, or combine both.
Good luck

Originally Posted by EATSCHILDREN

How's the primo treatin ya lisarox?

I am now loving it. Sex drive is now going up. Only other side effect is that my skin on my face feels a little more sweaty or oily or something.. Moist. ( Jesus that sounds retarded ) As far as how my sex drive was before.... I was willing whenever my husband was and got into it but I could have taken it or left it. Now I think about it all the time and I am aroused easily. That is the kind of sex drive I was looking for and the kind my hubby was hoping for.

Originally Posted by ManInBlack

My girlfriend has Ulcerative Colitis. I know for a fact that shit is no fun.

Yeh. It is pretty awful. Have her look up the "Select Carbohydrate Diet". It has helped me tremendously and brought me into remission for quite some time. They have also linked HGH to significantly helping colitis because of gh helping organ regrowth. I am trying to get my Dr's to prescribe it for me but they all say there is too much controversy with "those kinds of drugs" which is crazy since they highly recommend things like Remicade and Imuran which can cause cancer. Go figure.

Originally Posted by lisarox

Not sure of it is a typing error or not but I was wondering why you think I should be in bad shape with the low dose I am taking? I am not looking to put on a whole lot of size. Mostly tighten up and cut and add a little quality muscle. I competed in NPC bikini 2 years ago. I have thought about figure but I don't think I have the size for that either and to tell you the truth, after doing the bikini class, I really like it and have no desire to change. However, if for some reason I come out looking too big for bikini, I will go up to figure. But I highly doubt I will have to. Especially since it is so hard for me to maintain muscle size due to having Ulcerative Colitis . I have tried var before and had to quit it a week in because it was causing severe abdominal pain and nausea. Thank you for input. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

You should be able to handle the bikini class since you don't need a lot of muscle , maybe you can look at your training and see where you can do some changes to improve your physique . Primo should be ok for you how long you planning to run it?? If you can look your training and change some things with your eating you should be able to get what you need . Sorry the var did not work for you . With your situation i believe injections is the best route for you . Orals will upset your Colitis.
Good luck

Originally Posted by GMO

If you are making gains, there is no reason to increase your dose. Primo does not enhance libido in all females. You may not experience this side at all, or it may still manifest down the road. Remember also that Primo is an enanthate ester, which will not fully kick in until weeks 3-4, depending on the individual. Let's hope for your hubby's sake that you get that benefit within the next couple weeks.

^^^^^This as always GMO has some of the best advice out there. I agree that you need to wait till it fully kicks in, which for some four weeks!

Originally Posted by Chrisotpherm

^^^^^This as always GMO has some of the best advice out there. I agree that you need to wait till it fully kicks in, which for some four weeks!

I may have to disagree a little on primo that it takes 3-4 weeks to kick in
If you take it every week is slower but is not to be taken every week is to be taken every 4 days to get in the system. Is more for cutting more dry than putting a lot of size you will need test with it for that.