Thread: 9th week Plateau might be due to gear switch

Originally Posted by juiceforbrkfst

I'm on my 9Th week of a 16 week bulk cycle consisting of sust and deca with a 4 week dbol kickstart
I started out with
Sciroxx Pentadex 540mg ew
Euro-pharm deca 400mg ew
for the last 4 weeks its been Euro-Pharm sust @ 750 ew and Euro-pharm deca and now i don't feel "on" anymore. my calories are between 4500 and 5000. I'm struggling to keep weight around 190 and i am eating more towards the 5000 range. macros are carbs 50% Fat 30% protein 30%.
I have a shitload of Karachi's I was saving for my next cycle, but am thinking about abandoning the EP and switching over now to finish off my last 7 weeks. As always any advice from the experienced will be greatly appreciated!

Stats
29
5'9
190lbs
bf% 12

I started this cycle 9 weeks ago at 170 10%bf

It is extremely common to hit a plateau at week 8-9 due to increased Myostatin, which is a muscle growth inhibitor. Most people either up their test dose or throw in an oral at this point in the cycle to combat this effect. Everything I've ever heard about Euro-Pharm has been positive, which leads me to believe that is not the issue.

Are you losing weight or have you just hit a wall?

I have hit a wall. but I have upped the test(sust) to 750 and upped the calories condiderably, I gained 20 pounds on 4000 calories, now Im up to 5000 and struggling to maintian! It makes sense that your body would react that way, like anything else you put in your body you build up a tolerance. Another thing of notable mention is I seem to be much sorer the next day after workouts and for a few days. Maybe im just pushing harder, my workouts are def on point. Ill give it another week. I just dont want to get in a situation where I have zero HPTA function and wait till end of cycle to pct. Also, I watched my boy transform on EP and Had alot of sides so I know they make a good product. Thanks GMO, I'll keep you posted on results.

give us an example of your 5000 calorie diet, perhaps youre not eating as much as you think?

Breakfast
1 banana
2 tbs peanut butter
4 oz eggwhites
2 slices wheat toast with light butter and jam
1 bowl kashi go lean cereal with 1 cup skim milk

9am snack
clif bar

lunch
1 turkey sandwich on wheat
1 pbj
1/2 cup cottage chesse
8 oz broccili/cheese

pre work out
1 tuna sandwich with muenster and light mayo on whole wheat

Post work out
2 scoops whey
16 0z skim milk

Dinner
6oz chicken breast
big greek salad with fat free ceasar
2 whole red potates with skin 1/2 cup cream cheese on top
small slice of chocolate cake

9pm snack
fiber one bar
16oz skim mlk

4800 cal
567 carbs
155 fat
318 protein

I write down everything i put into my body obsessively. I eat the same things or similar everyday
water intake is 1 gallon on non training days 2 gallons on training days.

What GMO said. Happened to me and I upped my dose.

And love the Chocolate Cake for dessert for dinner, hey at least your honest lol.

Sounds like pretty solid advice. Thanks guys!

Myostatin bro. That's why it's common to increase doses or add another compound around that time.