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    Help Needed!!

    I am a noob, this will be my second cycle but the first was prepared for me by a good friend. I am 5'6 225 goal is weight loss. I started out at 275 and am now looking to get to under 200. After doing some research I have decided on a clen/T3 cycle with winni and and primo. Is this wise? I don't have access to my friend anymore so I am somewhat on my own with this one. I do am not looking to get huge just drop fat and be happy with what I see in the mirror. If anyone has any advice please help...

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    that is not wise at all. if youre looking to lose weight, you dont need AAS. Follow a controlled eating plan and do your cardio religiously. youll need to do the same thing on gear anyway, its not a fat burner.
    your obviously keen to use something though, so stick to your clen/t3

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    Diet, training, cardio is all you need to lose weight. Aas can come with some nasty sides if you're overweight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Diet, training, cardio is all you need to lose weight. Aas can come with some nasty sides if you're overweight.

    This^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Diet, training, cardio is all you need to lose weight. Aas can come with some nasty sides if you're overweight.

    THIS x 2
    I am on here for entertainment and educational purposes only.Recipe for BBing success...Diet =80%
    Routine =15% Gear/AAS =5% This = Success.

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    How old are you? Do you have low testosterone? Thyroid functioning properly? If all this is working right I wouldn't even suggest clen/t3.

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    I am 33 been doing the diet, training and cardio. And I want the extra boost. Also I am a noob but I did research before I made those choices. From my understanding the primo and win will build lean muscle while help with the cutting effect of the clen/T3. I am not dismissing anything anyone has said but I have made up my mind to take this step and just want to make sure that I have chose the right ones for my desired outcome...

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    Why not run Var instead of winny?
    I am on here for entertainment and educational purposes only.Recipe for BBing success...Diet =80%
    Routine =15% Gear/AAS =5% This = Success.

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    My brother the reality is what my bro's said above, to add to it your weight is probably caused you to have high blood pressure and when you add AAS to this it is only going to put you more at risky for hyptension and other health conditions that are just hidding yet to be uncovered in your body. I have to aas is a door that opens to medical issues that you didn't know you had when they are not used properly brother. To they are not the one size fits all and not trying to be rude. I know you are all fired up and will probably do the juice anyways as most guys do, but please consider the health bombs you are throwing on yourself and what could ultimately turn against you bro.

    If you are so bent on accelerating your weight loss to get to the goods, IMO go with HCG or some B12 shots as they will help target those fat cells that seem to be cemented to your body. My other bro's around have other options for you to I am sure. Listen to them man!!!
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    You all have valid points and I will truly consider them all, but you are right I am probably going to do them anyway. However with all this information I may be able to avoid completely screwing myself up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrmann27 View Post
    I am 33 been doing the diet, training and cardio. And I want the extra boost. Also I am a noob but I did research before I made those choices. From my understanding the primo and win will build lean muscle while help with the cutting effect of the clen/T3. I am not dismissing anything anyone has said but I have made up my mind to take this step and just want to make sure that I have chose the right ones for my desired outcome...
    You're obviously going to do what you want. I just suggest you get some blood work before you start so you have a baseline. There's a sticky in this forum on bloodwork, do the hormone panel and thyroid. If you have low testosterone or deficient in Free T3, then start there and leave the winny and primo alone. Just be prepared for some nasty sides due to your body fat.

    We're just looking out for you man. Best of luck.

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    I appreciate all the advice and even though it seems like I am dead set on doing this believe me I am listening to everything you guys are telling me.. And I appreciate no one being an ass about it....

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    Anxious 1 I cant pm yet any other way to contact u?

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    Shot u an email

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    If you're going to run any AAS bro you must run testosterone with it. Look into the first cycle and pct sticky, you'll find all you need to know there.

    It is advised to be sub 15% bf before using AAS, but if you're going to do it anyway just run test with an AI for 10 weeks, diet and cardio will be the key to your fat loss, and of course proper PCT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrmann27 View Post
    I am 33 been doing the diet, training and cardio. And I want the extra boost. Also I am a noob but I did research before I made those choices. From my understanding the primo and win will build lean muscle while help with the cutting effect of the clen/T3. I am not dismissing anything anyone has said but I have made up my mind to take this step and just want to make sure that I have chose the right ones for my desired outcome...
    If you want to lose wait, forgot the AAS.

    ECA or DNP, along with slin.


    That will make you lose weight, but don't kill yourself. You really could kill yourself if you don't do your research and know what you are doing.
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