Thread: Calling all hgh experts

I had no sides at all but 4 iu did not really make any noticeable effects for me other than fat loss. Your proposal of 6 months is good but I would run some Test with the GH to get synergy.

Will be watching....

I think 2IU for the first month is low, maybe work ur way up to 4 within 2 weeks
For mass ur going to need more than 4 for 6months
I'm weary of IP hgh bc he says his stuff is super potent and only 1 to 2 iu should be taken, which is a flat out joke, ask anyone who's taken pharm grade and 2iu ain't gonna give you bad sides or much results, which leads me to believe it may be lypholyzed insulin since he's telling guys don't take too much

The Hygetropin I'm looking isn't the ones you're referring to. You're thinking of the blue tops nipertropin.
And maybe I'm going too low, I don't believe in taking risks w this stuff just for fat loss. I've read to work your way up, that's why I thought a month would be reasonable. How fast do you guys go?
Thanks

I start at 3.3iu GH daily and then move to 5iu GH daily in 10 days or so. Uncle Z's blue tops.

Do you see strength gains at that dose?

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Do you see strength gains at that dose?

Not solo but if you are on gear absolutely. AAS seem to work synergistically with HGH over the long haul.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Do you see strength gains at that dose?

I'm no expert, but I did not.

I started with 4iu daily and within the second week, me wrists, ankles, feet, and fingers started to bloat. I also got some horrible CTS sides. I had a few options, lower my dose, cut it all together, or punch through the sides. Mind you, at the time I was on a cycle when I first started (I use the shit year round now) and like Heavy said, it's best to use it when "on" because of the synergy of test and GH together. Both cause hyperplasia.

I later saw my sides start to go away, however....I did go up one full shoe size and my wrists got thicker. I had to go and drop a couple hundred bucks on some more links for my dress watch. I also had to get a few new pairs of shoes. About 2 months in, I started to notice some shredding of some fat around my abs, my skin also started to look a lot cleaner all over my body. I did not notice any gains in strength...I continued to use it after my cycle was complete. About 4 months in at 4iu daily, I noticed some more hardening and a little more vascularity....and I felt like a god. I had more energy, I felt more active, basically....an overall good sense of well being.

At 6 months in, I changed protocols all together and bumped my dose up to 10iu ED during a rather heavy bulk program. I used this dose in conjunction with AAS and slin. I put on a solid 23lbs. of LMB. For me, that's a shit load of LMB, keeping in the single digit bf%. I don't think I can lose those gains, I was around 220lbs. at the time, and ended up just under 250lbs. and had a bf% of 7.5. I later tossed IGF & T3 into the mix, and I slowly began to add more LBM. Got harder and much more defined.

I tried several different protocols, but I have never used GH alone for long periods of time....just time in between cycles. But again, I was using slin as well. You can start using HGH now, and by the time you are ready for your next cycle....the shit will be working well in your body. With the addition of test, you will see much more drastic changes, and ultimately....more LBM.

In short, 4iu will shed some fat in the long run...but don't expect drastic changes at that dose. If you are looking to add more mass like you said, you really have to up the dose a bit. If you were older (I think you said you were around 32-33?) 4iu would be more effective. I'm 33 and I needed at least 8iu to show some nice changes....the older you are, the less you will need. IMHO. I'm sure others will have different experiences, these are just some of mine. Good luck bro.



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Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Do you see strength gains at that dose?

As far as strength gains, around 10 ius a day is what you will need along with you aas for size and strength gains. 3-5 ius will give you fat loss, tendon and ligament benifits. You'll have more restful sleep, better skin.

Ok, so maybe I'm looking at 6 months at 4-6 iu, and run aas for the last 3 months. Unfortunately, That's all I can afford.

How do you guys prefer to dose, am and pm?

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

Ok, so maybe I'm looking at 6 months at 4-6 iu, and run aas for the last 3 months. Unfortunately, That's all I can afford.

How do you guys prefer to dose, am and pm?

2X a day. First shot is very early AM, around 7ish. Second shot is taken around mid day, around 2PM. This is how I would run it solo or with AAS, I use a different protocol when slin is in the mix.



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Thanks again V!

Holy Crap, you are a big mofo.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I'm no expert, but I did not.

I started with 4iu daily and within the second week, me wrists, ankles, feet, and fingers started to bloat. I also got some horrible CTS sides. I had a few options, lower my dose, cut it all together, or punch through the sides. Mind you, at the time I was on a cycle when I first started (I use the shit year round now) and like Heavy said, it's best to use it when "on" because of the synergy of test and GH together. Both cause hyperplasia.

I later saw my sides start to go away, however....I did go up one full shoe size and my wrists got thicker. I had to go and drop a couple hundred bucks on some more links for my dress watch. I also had to get a few new pairs of shoes. About 2 months in, I started to notice some shredding of some fat around my abs, my skin also started to look a lot cleaner all over my body. I did not notice any gains in strength...I continued to use it after my cycle was complete. About 4 months in at 4iu daily, I noticed some more hardening and a little more vascularity....and I felt like a god. I had more energy, I felt more active, basically....an overall good sense of well being.

At 6 months in, I changed protocols all together and bumped my dose up to 10iu ED during a rather heavy bulk program. I used this dose in conjunction with AAS and slin. I put on a solid 23lbs. of LMB. For me, that's a shit load of LMB, keeping in the single digit bf%. I don't think I can lose those gains, I was around 220lbs. at the time, and ended up just under 250lbs. and had a bf% of 7.5. I later tossed IGF & T3 into the mix, and I slowly began to add more LBM. Got harder and much more defined.

I tried several different protocols, but I have never used GH alone for long periods of time....just time in between cycles. But again, I was using slin as well. You can start using HGH now, and by the time you are ready for your next cycle....the shit will be working well in your body. With the addition of test, you will see much more drastic changes, and ultimately....more LBM.

In short, 4iu will shed some fat in the long run...but don't expect drastic changes at that dose. If you are looking to add more mass like you said, you really have to up the dose a bit. If you were older (I think you said you were around 32-33?) 4iu would be more effective. I'm 33 and I needed at least 8iu to show some nice changes....the older you are, the less you will need. IMHO. I'm sure others will have different experiences, these are just some of mine. Good luck bro.



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Hey guys coming from someone who only uses hgh and have been for the past 6 years this is just my input. 1iu for the first 2 weeks then up to 2iu once a day for the next month, I am on the third month 2iu 4am - nothing to eat or drink for at least 30-45 minutes then 2iu before bed. you will not see muscle mass until about the 5-6th month you will average or should average approx 18 % lean muscle mass gain doing absolutely nothing. HGH is a 3-6 month program, anything injected after 6 months is asking for long term sides(they will diminish once you stop, but some will stay with you forever) since you have built up enough to last the remaining 6 months. I bumped up to 4iu and like /V said swollen wrists, ankles and feet, hands hurt like hell, hips and knees, dropped down 1iu and everything is good now. you guys are using HGH to bulk up and get ripped. I am prob one of the older ones here 50 yrs. I went from 198 lb 29%BF to 176-180 22%BF in 3 months, tone , tighter skin, better sleep, my joints dont crack n pop when I get off the couch, reflexes have almost doubled and I have enough energy to run though the f-in wall. my overall experience has been great. I would recommend HGH to anyone over 30. I have been reading a lot on this forum and checking out some of you guys pix. I gotta say you guys are INTENSE! fuck me!! how do you stick that f-in needle that deep. I have a hard time with my 30 slin needle and I read some of you have 25! thats like sticking a nail in your thigh. more power to you guys.

Bottom line; we all know our own bodies and we all know when something doesn't feel rights - Don't ignore it.

Take Care!

Thanks green ox, that is helpful. I can't wait to get started.

2iu is a typical dose for women. I've got buddies who compete and run 10 iu/day. 4- 6iu is about where you would start experiencing the wrist pain. Water retention is not uncommon. I've heard a few people suggest dosing it EOD instead of ED. However I don't know what that looks like if you're doing more than 4 iu/day.

Generally since its not an anabolic you're really just looking at supplementing your natural growth hormone levels to optimize your "youth-level" functionality - recover, preference for lean muscle mass over bodyfat, better sense of well-being, better skin elasticity, better hair / nails, etc.

i had a question since we are on the topic of GH, victor mentioned that his feet grew one size and his wrist as well, does HGH change features on the face as well? does it make your face bigger?

Originally Posted by sassy69

2iu is a typical dose for women. I've got buddies who compete and run 10 iu/day. 4- 6iu is about where you would start experiencing the wrist pain. Water retention is not uncommon. I've heard a few people suggest dosing it EOD instead of ED. However I don't know what that looks like if you're doing more than 4 iu/day.

Generally since its not an anabolic you're really just looking at supplementing your natural growth hormone levels to optimize your "youth-level" functionality - recover, preference for lean muscle mass over bodyfat, better sense of well-being, better skin elasticity, better hair / nails, etc.

HGH somatotropic hormone compounds offers the athlete three performance-enhancing effects. HGH (somatotropic hormone) has a strong anabolic effect and causes an increased protein synthesis which manifests itself in a muscular hypertrophy (enlargement of muscle cells) and in a muscular hyperplasia (increase of muscle cells.) The latter is very interesting since this increase cannot be obtained by the intake of steroids. This is probably also the reason why HGH is called the strongest anabolic hormone

Originally Posted by GreenOx

HGH somatotropic hormone compounds offers the athlete three performance-enhancing effects. HGH (somatotropic hormone) has a strong anabolic effect and causes an increased protein synthesis which manifests itself in a muscular hypertrophy (enlargement of muscle cells) and in a muscular hyperplasia (increase of muscle cells.) The latter is very interesting since this increase cannot be obtained by the intake of steroids. This is probably also the reason why HGH is called the strongest anabolic hormone

This is incorrect.

Testosterone has been proven to increase satellite cells.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

This is incorrect.

Testosterone has been proven to increase satellite cells.

Yup^^^

...and so will Trenbolone due to increased IGF-1 production.

Originally Posted by GMO

Yup^^^

...and so will Trenbolone due to increased IGF-1 production.

Yup =)

Originally Posted by endurance724

i had a question since we are on the topic of GH, victor mentioned that his feet grew one size and his wrist as well, does HGH change features on the face as well? does it make your face bigger?

how about dicks? does it make your dick bigger?

Originally Posted by banker23

how about dicks? does it make your dick bigger?

If this were true, it would be the best selling drug in the world, and every guy would be on it, whether they're big or small.

Question, I've been on 2iu's 5 on and 2 off for about ten weeks now. Have felt and seen little to no change, don't know if it was bunk or just too Low a dose. Ready to move up to 4-5 iu's a day. But is this recommended for only 6 months? Then off for 6 months? Or drop down to 2 iu's . I'm 6'1 and 249 pounds. I'm also 47 yrs old. Looking to finish my bulk cycle and start my cutting cycle with HGH probably in February. I was hoping because of my age the 2 iu's would be enough. Unless like I said it was bunk. Any insight would be great!!

I obviously can't comment from experience, but it would seem by the vets posts in this thread that 2 iu is a very small dose.

Great posts here!! Tons of good info.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

This is incorrect.

Testosterone has been proven to increase satellite cells.

Originally Posted by GMO

Yup^^^

...and so will Trenbolone due to increased IGF-1 production.

I was responding to the statement that HGH has no anabolic properties which it does - thats all

I fully agree with Heavy and GMO, like I said in my post...both test (yes, and tren) can cause hyperplasia. Not at the same rate as GH though. Taking them together multiplies the effect. And the strongest anabolic hormone is insulin, not HGH. IMHO. Good posts guys.



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