Thread: Would this be to much for a second cycle?

1-3 Test Prop 100mg eod - to jumpstart instead of an oral
1-12 Test E/C 500mg a week
1-however long you can handle it - Tren Ace - 40-50mg ed

Stats?

Originally Posted by Hell

1-3 Test Prop 100mg eod - to jumpstart instead of an oral
1-12 Test E/C 500mg a week
1-however long you can handle it - Tren Ace - 40-50mg ed

Stats?

Sitting right at 200-202 @ 5'10" around 15% BF. Little over two and half years of lifting. Gained 35lbs from last cycle and lost 15lbs. Finished PCT a month ago and just started a cutting diet to shed some more BF. Trying to get down to 12% by the end of January before I start up again.

I thought you were suppose to run Tren around the middle of your cycle and run it till the end of test?

I had this in mind

Wk 1-7 500mg Test Cyp
Wk 1-6 50mg Dbol ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 8-12 Test Cyp 750mg
Wk 9-16 Tren A 50-75mg ED
Wk 12-16 Test prop 75-100mg ED (Run your prop three days past your Tren)
Wk 11-16 Winny 50-100mg ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 1-16 hcg 500iu x2/wk
Wk 9-16 Cabergoline 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-16 Aromasin 10-25mg ED

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Originally Posted by eXistence

Sitting right at 200-202 @ 5'10" around 15% BF. Little over two and half years of lifting. Gained 35lbs from last cycle and lost 15lbs. Finished PCT a month ago and just started a cutting diet to shed some more BF. Trying to get down to 12% by the end of January before I start up again.

I thought you were suppose to run Tren around the middle of your cycle and run it till the end of test?

I had this in mind

Wk 1-7 500mg Test Cyp
Wk 1-6 50mg Dbol ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 8-12 Test Cyp 750mg
Wk 9-16 Tren A 50-75mg ED
Wk 12-16 Test prop 75-100mg ED (Run your prop three days past your Tren)
Wk 11-16 Winny 50-100mg ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 1-16 hcg 500iu x2/wk
Wk 9-16 Cabergoline 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-16 Aromasin 10-25mg ED

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Why are you making your second cycle so complicated? IMHO you shouldnt touch tren for another cycle or two. I don't really see a reason why you're bringing in prop so late. Finish off your cycle with cyp. Like hell said, if you don't want to use an oral use prop as a kickstart, or some tne. 12.5-25 of aromasin. Depending on how prone you are to sides you can cut back to eod

Originally Posted by BigD4life

Why are you making your second cycle so complicated? IMHO you shouldnt touch tren for another cycle or two. I don't really see a reason why you're bringing in prop so late. Finish off your cycle with cyp. Like hell said, if you don't want to use an oral use prop as a kickstart, or some tne. 12.5-25 of aromasin. Depending on how prone you are to sides you can cut back to eod

Well this is the reason why I posted. I was wanting input. This is what this site is for. I just want to get a few opinions before I make one final decision. You know?

Originally Posted by BigD4life

Why are you making your second cycle so complicated? IMHO you shouldnt touch tren for another cycle or two. I don't really see a reason why you're bringing in prop so late. Finish off your cycle with cyp. Like hell said, if you don't want to use an oral use prop as a kickstart, or some tne. 12.5-25 of aromasin. Depending on how prone you are to sides you can cut back to eod

I second what BigD says. KISS man... Until you get more cycles under your belt keep it simple stupid. I personally like running a short ester to finish off a cycle, but it is probably pointless for you to do. It just complicates cycles. Instead of winny you could run Var. As for the TNE/Prop kickstart instead of an oral, I completely agree. TNE has been wonderful to me for the past week. I would also keep out the tren, until a later cycle. It isn't needed yet, and comes with way too many potential sides.

Originally Posted by anxious1

I second what BigD says. KISS man... Until you get more cycles under your belt keep it simple stupid. I personally like running a short ester to finish off a cycle, but it is probably pointless for you to do. It just complicates cycles. Instead of winny you could run Var. As for the TNE/Prop kickstart instead of an oral, I completely agree. TNE has been wonderful to me for the past week. I would also keep out the tren, until a later cycle. It isn't needed yet, and comes with way too many potential sides.

Alright now you have me leaning towards that. What about running some T3 along with prop/cyp cycle?

Don't underestimate tren bro! I'd wait for a few more cycles. The sides are brutal especially if you don't recognize them. Soo many compounds for a second cycle isn't necessary IMHO.

I agree with the above, you want to keep it simple. If you want to run tren, go for it, just be aware of the sides and have every lined up like caber.

1-8 Test Prop eod
1-8 Tren Ace 80-100mg eod
Adex .5mg eod or Aromsin 12.5mg eod

Or like I said above

1-3 Test Prop 100mg eod - to jumpstart instead of an oral
1-12 Test E/C 500mg a week
1-however long you can handle it - Tren Ace - 40-50mg ed

I you wanna run the tren at the end then go for it, doesnt really matter too much if you are running the prop to jumpstart instead of an oral.

Ok so its settled no Tren this time around. I already have cyp + winny on hand. Just need to get some prop and possibly T3 to cut some BF down. Should I still run some Cabergoline or I can do without and stick with Armomasin/Adex?

Originally Posted by eXistence

Ok so its settled no Tren this time around. I already have cyp + winny on hand. Just need to get some prop and possibly T3 to cut some BF down. Should I still run some Cabergoline or I can do without and stick with Armomasin/Adex?

If no tren or deca then you dont need caber, just adex or aromasin.

Good info here..i think you'll make excellent gains off cyp, prop, winny, and t3

Originally Posted by eXistence

Wk 1-7 500mg Test Cyp
Wk 1-6 50mg Dbol ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 8-12 Test Cyp 750mg
Wk 9-16 Tren A 50-75mg ED
Wk 12-16 Test prop 75-100mg ED (Run your prop three days past your Tren)
Wk 11-16 Winny 50-100mg ED (Do without more than likely.)
Wk 1-16 hcg 500iu x2/wk
Wk 9-16 Cabergoline 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-16 Aromasin 10-25mg ED

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Looks like one I laid out...

Except I would never run winny at 100mg ED.

I'm on board with the other posters...your body will grow on Test/Winny.

Originally Posted by GMO

Looks like one I laid out...

Except I would never run winny at 100mg ED.

I'm on board with the other posters...your body will grow on Test/Winny.

It was . I'd like to try prop this time around though along with T3. Any specific way to cycle T3 or is it like clen, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off?

Originally Posted by eXistence

It was . I'd like to try prop this time around though along with T3. Any specific way to cycle T3 or is it like clen, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off?

He hijacked your cycle GMO lol GMO is the man bro. You could do much worst than following one of his cycle lay outs lol

T3 can be run for non stop as long as you aren't running it stupidly high. I ran it 10 weeks straight tapering up and down every 5 weeks from 25mcg to 75mcg with zero sides. It can eat away muscle if you aren't taking in enough calories tho.

Originally Posted by eXistence

It was . I'd like to try prop this time around though along with T3. Any specific way to cycle T3 or is it like clen, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off?

I'd recognize my work anywhere...lol

Latsky's got you covered on the T3 advice.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

T3 can be run for non stop as long as you aren't running it stupidly high. I ran it 10 weeks straight tapering up and down every 5 weeks from 25mcg to 75mcg with zero sides. It can eat away muscle if you aren't taking in enough calories tho.

Any chance of t3 effecting normal thyroid function when ran for extended periods like that? Perhaps after a certain number of runs?

Don't know why everyones so scared of tren. People react differently, however obviously for a first time user it's better to start small and stick with acetate so you can get a good read on what kind of sides you'll have.

I think like anything if you abuse there will be issues

So I decided to go with

1-3 Test Prop 100mg eod - to jumpstart instead of an oral
1-12 Test E/C 500mg a week
8-12 50mg winny ed or on lifting days
6-12 T3
HCG
Aromasin
then proper pct

Sounds reasonable now?

Originally Posted by eXistence

So I decided to go with

1-3 Test Prop 100mg eod - to jumpstart instead of an oral
1-12 Test E/C 500mg a week
8-12 50mg winny ed or on lifting days
6-12 T3
HCG
Aromasin
then proper pct

Sounds reasonable now?

Test E or C? I hope I am reading that right.

Originally Posted by anxious1

Test E or C? I hope I am reading that right.

Going to be C since I have it on hand right now.

Originally Posted by USMC

Don't know why everyones so scared of tren. People react differently, however obviously for a first time user it's better to start small and stick with acetate so you can get a good read on what kind of sides you'll have.

I thought about getting the Tren Acetate 100. Little cheaper too. Hmm now I'm thinking of actually running it in this cycle towards the end though.

Originally Posted by eXistence

I thought about getting the Tren Acetate 100. Little cheaper too. Hmm now I'm thinking of actually running it in this cycle towards the end though.

Bro, just stick to the cycle you posted a little above this...
Run tren next time, and figure out a little more about your body on gear so you can play with it a little more.

Originally Posted by eXistence

I thought about getting the Tren Acetate 100. Little cheaper too. Hmm now I'm thinking of actually running it in this cycle towards the end though.

Go for it....Start out at 40mg ed or 80mg eod, and then up it a tad if you handle the sides well. I would have some caber/prami on hand just in case also. I wont run tren without caber again!

I switch out between Test E and C all the time, just depends which vial I grab...

Originally Posted by Hell

Go for it....Start out at 40mg ed or 80mg eod, and then up it a tad if you handle the sides well. I would have some caber/prami on hand just in case also. I wont run tren without caber again!

I switch out between Test E and C all the time, just depends which vial I grab...

Can you point me the direction to where I can learn more about tren and its sides and when to take caber, etc please?

Originally Posted by eXistence

Can you point me the direction to where I can learn more about tren and its sides and when to take caber, etc please?

Caber start off with .25 and go from there.

Sides, do a search but night sweats, insomnia, aggresiveness, and the unfortunate tren dick(which the caber takes care of) are all the typicals. Everyone is different, some get them severe and others like me it's minimal and tolerable and I'm running 400mg.

Originally Posted by eXistence

Can you point me the direction to where I can learn more about tren and its sides and when to take caber, etc please?

Search for tren logs... They should cover some of them.