Thread: HRT, Anavar, and Blood Work

What is your background? Stats, age, etc, AAS use? What are you looking for? Do you want to be on HRT for life? Are you ready for that? Or do you just want to do cycles?

Need more info.

What are you trying to accomplish?

It won't take but a couple of days for proviron & anavar to clear your system. Neither of them even surpress your natural test levels as far as I know...

BTW, oral cycles are stupid and negligent.

I agree oral only cycles not very smart. But ANY exo test above 50mg per week will shut you down. There was a Anavar study done that showed endo test levels dropped by 30% just after 5 day's.

OP if you are worried about elevated test levels stop taking Anavar (it only has an 8 hours half life) and other test and then get blood work done.

if they are just doing bloodwork for testosterone then it wont pick up the anavar in his system correct? They are just testing for testosterone and not other steroids.

Originally Posted by strength within

if they are just doing bloodwork for testosterone then it wont pick up the anavar in his system correct? They are just testing for testosterone and not other steroids.

Depends on the test, often it will show up as higher test levels depending on the steroid in use and the specificity of the test - with anavar I'm not sure to be honest, but best bet is to drop everything two days before you go in (I would drop the BS dose they have you on too so your levels are that much lower when you go)

Originally Posted by BP2000

I agree oral only cycles not very smart. But ANY exo test above 50mg per week will shut you down. There was a Anavar study done that showed endo test levels dropped by 30% just after 5 day's.

OP if you are worried about elevated test levels stop taking Anavar (it only has an 8 hours half life) and other test and then get blood work done.

Can you point me in the direction of where this information came from?

This study shows decrease in testosterone levels of 37% after only 5 days of 15mg oxandrolone ED in healthy males.

Short-Term Oxandrolone Administration Stimulates Net Muscle Protein Synthesis in Young Men

Originally Posted by BP2000

This study shows decrease in testosterone levels of 37% after only 5 days of 15mg oxandrolone ED in healthy males.

Short-Term Oxandrolone Administration Stimulates Net Muscle Protein Synthesis in Young Men

So 50mg of any sythetic test will shut you down? Your graph here is showing just 5 days @ 15mg........wouldn't that be less than 50mg and if you were to use a longer time frame wouldn't that (maybe) lead to even lower values?

Originally Posted by XYZ

So 50mg of any sythetic test will shut you down? Your graph here is showing just 5 days @ 15mg........wouldn't that be less than 50mg and if you were to use a longer time frame wouldn't that (maybe) lead to even lower values?

No not 50mg per day. The body only needs 7mg per day of pure test. Anything over this the body will recognize it and say "hey got enough don't need anymore and shut down endo production. Otherwise your lipid profile will be out of whack.

15mg X 5 is 75mg. And yes the endo test would go even lower (higher shutdown at cycle levels)

Therefore it is a fallacy that Anavar won't shut you down. Any exo test given over a period of time will shut you down.

For example, if you injected just a hrt dose of test e 100mg per week you would be fully shutdown in 4 weeks. (or close to it) If you stopped the 100mg and went to <50mg your balls would start to grow (start natural production again) if everything is working correctly.

Some older men need to inject test (hrt) because their body can no longer produce enough test (Primary or secondary hypogonadism). There have been studies that show that a balanced hrt program can restore healthy cholesterol levels in older men because the body produces excess cholesterol (testosterone is made from cholesterol) to try to make more testosterone. Once test levels are restored the body no longer needs to produce the cholesterol.

So for some of the newer gray market compounds how long would you be off of them before going in for HRT bloodwork? for example I'm usin Alpha Mass by Forerunner labs (converts to 1-test) how soon should I stop taking the product before my doc apointment so that it doesnt throw off the values? (i'm already on prescribed TRT dose of 200mg test cyp a week, have been for 2 years)

Why use pro hormones when your on the real stuff?

To figure out when to stop find out the half-life of the product and double that. So if half-life is 4 days then stop taking it 8 day's beforehand.

Just curious what are you total T level's on 200mg per week? Must be 1200-1500

Originally Posted by BP2000

Why use pro hormones when your on the real stuff?

To figure out when to stop find out the half-life of the product and double that. So if half-life is 4 days then stop taking it 8 day's beforehand.

Just curious what are you total T level's on 200mg per week? Must be 1200-1500

Using the alpha mass as an extra boost to kick off my winter bulk, didnt see anything wrong with that. Why? am i wrong in that assumption?

Thanks for the info, im nto sure what the half life of alpha mass is but i will do some reaserch.

And actualy my low point (before a shot on monday) is 800 and my high point is around 1100-1200. I do 100mg on mon and thurs.

Originally Posted by strength within

Using the alpha mass as an extra boost to kick off my winter bulk, didnt see anything wrong with that. Why? am i wrong in that assumption?

Thanks for the info, im nto sure what the half life of alpha mass is but i will do some reaserch.

And actualy my low point (before a shot on monday) is 800 and my high point is around 1100-1200. I do 100mg on mon and thurs.

No your not wrong. But a better option would be more test 200mg mon and 200mg Friday. Would be cheaper and more effective for a bulk.

For HRT do you take any HCG?

results are back in. Test levels are crashed; total test as 167, free test as 63. Also , my Bad Cholesterol was slightly above normal; but Good GOOD cholesterol has virtually disappeared. Im in the 20's there. Doc says to stop, or pay a visit to the WidowMaker. So Im hangin up my tights and cape.

How old are you? HOw many cycles have you done in the past. PCT?

How long did you do the oral cycle before you stopped and had bloodwork done? Could be the reason your lipids are out of whack.

Not a good idea to do a cycle anywhere close to bloodwork if you are looking for your natural levels to see where your at.

50 yrs old, 4 cycles previous, all oral cycles under 1 month. Standard Clomid PCT.

The only problems Id had before were not unusual: pumps, possible lethargy.
Dermacrine this, and previous cycle, took care of lethargy.

I was 10 days into Anavar/Proviron/TBol cycle. It was my first time using anavar. Also, my doctor asked ME if I would be interested in starting 10mg AndroDerm 2 days before I was to start my cycle. Ka-Ching!

Id left this office that day with a script for AndroDerm, and a follow-up appt for 2 months later. I thought the timing would be perfect, and Id be done with PCT before I came back in. But they apparently forgot to make a follow up, and I recieved a 'reminder' for an appt that I never made, a week later.