Thread: starting too soon?

test enanthate is dosed at 250mg a week..sorry forgot to mention that

I'd recommend doing tren at 50mg ed instead of 100mg eod. Most users report less sides with ed injections.

Originally Posted by Jt123

stats. 5'7, 24yo, 186bs, 12-13% bf

I just recently finished pct of a test and dbol cycle and i bulked up and were satisfied with the results. started at 172 and ended at 192 and im currently 186 after pct.

next cycle is:
1-7 tren ace 100mg eod
1-10 test e
7-12 winny 40mg
preloading prami and letro for 2 weeks
prami @.25 ed and letro .5 eod..i am gyno prone and have never ran tren before so im taking every precaution.

i am competing in a bodybuilding competition next year and want to lean out and gain some lean mass for it. what would be some negatives of starting about 5 weeks after pct?
thanks for all advice in advance

The negatives are your blood levels may have not returned to normal yet and you're going to start beating up your CNS and HPTA all over again. Ideally, you should get bloodwork especially if you are thinking of starting so soon. If you want to follow bro-science (not recommended but this seems to be the way most do it) you should stay off at the very LEAST 4 months (time on+PCT = time off-assuming your last cycle was 12 weeks plus 4 weeks PCT)

yeah i've been hearing that alot, im gonna see how i react to eod and if it gets bad then i'll go to every day..thanks vibrant

Ya I'd up the test to 250 is just above natural levels so you won't be happy with the gains. Tren I'd start 50mg eod and work up. It's easier to add more later than start high and hate the way you feel. Tren is very potent and the sides can be terrible. Some guys have zero sides I personally can't run it anymore the insomnia and acne aren't worth it. Not to mention you want to punch anyone that looks at you!! Lol!!

Originally Posted by banker23

The negatives are your blood levels may have not returned to normal yet and you're going to start beating up your CNS and HPTA all over again. Ideally, you should get bloodwork especially if you are thinking of starting so soon. If you want to follow bro-science (not recommended but this seems to be the way most do it) you should stay off at the very LEAST 4 months (time on+PCT = time off-assuming your last cycle was 12 weeks plus 4 weeks PCT)

yeah last cycle was roughly 10-11 weeks and 4 weeks of clomid/aromasin pct...i will most likely get blood work done pre cycle but hopefully i recover fully in the next 5 weeks

and did 3 weeks of nolva during pct

Originally Posted by banker23

The negatives are your blood levels may have not returned to normal yet and you're going to start beating up your CNS and HPTA all over again. Ideally, you should get bloodwork especially if you are thinking of starting so soon. If you want to follow bro-science (not recommended but this seems to be the way most do it) you should stay off at the very LEAST 4 months (time on+PCT = time off-assuming your last cycle was 12 weeks plus 4 weeks PCT)

^^^This

Let blood work be your guide...

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Ya I'd up the test to 250 is just above natural levels so you won't be happy with the gains. Tren I'd start 50mg eod and work up. It's easier to add more later than start high and hate the way you feel. Tren is very potent and the sides can be terrible. Some guys have zero sides I personally can't run it anymore the insomnia and acne aren't worth it. Not to mention you want to punch anyone that looks at you!! Lol!!

i may start at 75 eod for the first 2 weeks to see how i react to it..250mg test is just for a base, i've hear people actually recommending running test lower than tren for less sides

Originally Posted by Jt123

i may start at 75 eod for the first 2 weeks to see how i react to it..250mg test is just for a base, i've hear people actually recommending running test lower than tren for less sides

I have to but usually guys with tren experience. I'm just giving my opinion tho bro. It's all about experimenting.

Why not just run test and do some cardio and keep the diet clean? Guys always look for an easier way insted of just working harder.

A second cycle with tren AND gyno prone......................no thanks.

You seem to be listening to anyone who tells you how to dose your next cycle but not to anyone who tells you to wait. Don't be a retard. It's not worth fucking up your body.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

You seem to be listening to anyone who tells you how to dose your next cycle but not to anyone who tells you to wait. Don't be a retard. It's not worth fucking up your body.

listening to everyone telling me how to run my cycle?
i switched from enanthate to acetate and that was the only thing that changed from my original plan sloppy?..but please correct me if im wrong

Originally Posted by XYZ

Why not just run test and do some cardio and keep the diet clean? Guys always look for an easier way insted of just working harder.

A second cycle with tren AND gyno prone......................no thanks.

X2 if you are serious about competing you need to absolutely master your diet. You can get the results you desire without tren. Cutting with some prop and Var would be a mild cycle that'll help you recomp with the right diet. Cut with some clen, an eca stack or t3 after you're recovered and you could see single digit bf with the right diet and enough work.