Thread: Test E 7 weeks No gains! (Gear legit).

no i havnt been running an ai as i wasnt bothered about water retention as im using this cycle as a bulking (or so i thought) .all ive been running is fincar as i suffer from mpb.

My pct i wasnt sure whether to do nolva 40mg e/d for 2 weeks then 20mg e/d for another 2 weeks. i found lots of contrasting opinions on pct for this cycle.

My diet is....

Breakfast - 4 eggs 2 slices wholemeal bread.

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake

Lunch - tuna pasta

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake

evening meal - some sort of meat, veggies and potatoes.

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake.
I know it could be more but my finances kinda limit it.

No matter how much Test you inject if it's not free test it's not gonna help. Some things that increase free Test are Proviron, Winstrol, Phera but only Proviron you can run the whol cycle.

Originally Posted by mr zee

I kid you not, he doesnt even drink protein shakes... its crazy, he has only been training for around a year and doesnt really have a clue, i tried to stop him, but i couldnt persuade him from coming on with me. i know i understand that food is so much better than supplements.

were actually drawing from the same vial, with different needles of course, i just dont understand it, i did a few years research before this so i was expecting the sort of gains he has made.

the source is also very reputable i know guys go to him all the time and are huge in a couple of months.

I was just wondering if its anything to do with genetics...certain gear not having the same effect on different people at the same dosages?

I cant get a picture right now but i can tomorrow...am i allowed to say the name of the lab?

How can you live on 1,000 cal a day? It sounds like you are not eatting enough to me. 400mg a week is really low but if its your first cycle then you should see results. There is no way he gained 20 lbs on 1,000 cal. The avg person intakes 2,500 cal a day to just maintain current weight unless like someone said he is 100lb.

whats free test?

Originally Posted by mr zee

no i havnt been running an ai as i wasnt bothered about water retention as im using this cycle as a bulking (or so i thought) .all ive been running is fincar as i suffer from mpb.

My pct i wasnt sure whether to do nolva 40mg e/d for 2 weeks then 20mg e/d for another 2 weeks. i found lots of contrasting opinions on pct for this cycle.

My diet is....

Breakfast - 4 eggs 2 slices wholemeal bread.

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake

Lunch - tuna pasta

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake

evening meal - some sort of meat, veggies and potatoes.

2-3 hours later mass gainer shake.
I know it could be more but my finances kinda limit it.

You are an ectomorph with a super high metabolism and you eat that to gain weight?

I lose weight with that and my metabolism is slower than a turtle in the winter.

EAT MORE, TRAIN MORE, REST MORE

i see what your saying, i guess diet is the issue here then thankyou all for your replies.

You need way more FOOD!

People are different sensitivities, and people have different natural testosterone levels. While 400mg/wk might be a big boost for your friend, maybe you're used to higher levels.

While you say you're friend is on 1000 cals, and you're on 4000. I'm sure you're friend can't count calories or isn't telling you about some other junk he eats. It's basically too low compared to how much you've been burning, if you were also expecting to bulk up 10-20lb. Better luck next time though!

You're in the UK right? How were you going to get bloodwork? I could do with bloodwork, but AFAIK my only option is a needle exchange. I emailed Addaction (needle exchange) and they said to phone their branch that's 100 miles away, sounded like they'd do it. Although I can't bring myself to phone them, never mind show up a few times. :-)

Another thing I'm surprised noone has asked. What kind of "weight gainer" shake are you taking? Most of the crap sold in GNC or VitaminWorld or whereever(pick your favorite chain store) is junk filled with empty calories and shitty made proteins and won't do squat for you, except fill you up. But welcome to the world of I'll just throw money at it America.

But besides that you could have a crappy diet and still make gains on only 400mg of test a week. Hell you don't even have to hit the gym very hard and you'd still see something.

Something just isn't adding up.

Test works differently on everyone. I have a high tolerance. All I get is oily skin and increased libido with slight strength increase off 500/wk. I have to ramp up to 750-1000 to see the amazing results you are looking for. Honestly, it sounds like the 2 of you have no business running a cycle.

Originally Posted by cavtrooper96

Test works differently on everyone. I have a high tolerance. All I get is oily skin and increased libido with slight strength increase off 500/wk. I have to ramp up to 750-1000 to see the amazing results you are looking for. Honestly, it sounds like the 2 of you have no business running a cycle.

Try some Proviron, 50mg twice a day, and see how much your free test increases and you wont need an AI or Viagra either.