Thread: Second cycle opinion

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Week 3-12: 500mg Deca weekly. Pinned M 250mg and Th 250 mg

Week 1-10 Deca

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Week 3-12: 20 mg Dibol ED oral (possibly except weekends)

Week 1-4 Dbol (weekends also)

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Week 4-14: 400iu HCG weekly. Pinned M 200iu and Th 200 iu

Week 1-14 HCG
Better start HCG from the start.

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Week 15-17: Clomid 100mg ED 50mg in the am, 50mn in the pm
Week 18: Clomid 50 mg ED

Week 15: Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16-18: Clomid 50 mg ED
You should include Aromasin here @ 25/25/12.5/12.5

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Question 1: Now I'm thinking about throwing in Aromasin into the mix but can't find it anywhere. Thoughts on mixing this in as an AI? Is it absolutely necessary? I keep reading mixed opinions.

It might not be necessary, but is a smart thing to do @ about 12.5mg a day for start.

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Question 3: Should one run HCG for PCT? I keep reading mixed opinions on this..

Nope.

Originally Posted by qwkrsx

Question 4: Should one run Nolva with the Clomid for PCT? I keep reading mixed opinions on this..

I wouldn't.

Originally Posted by Night_Wolf

Week 1-10 Deca


Week 1-4 Dbol (weekends also)


Week 1-14 HCG
Better start HCG from the start.


Week 15: Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16-18: Clomid 50 mg ED


It might not be necessary, but is a smart thing to do.


Nope.


I wouldn't.

You're the man Night Wolf! Thanks. If I only take dbol for weeks 1-4 how much should I take ED? If I were to incorporate aromasin should I use it while on, pct or both?

I would do 25mg dbol twice a day and if you have never done dbol before it could make you lethargic and sap all your energy. Personally Proviron is my first oral of choice another hg, because you can run it your whole cycle as it is not 17aa and allows you to get more out of your test and may be all you need for an AI and for a kicker I might add Anadrol the first few weeks. Cyp is usually 200mg hg and I prefer Enanthate because it is 250mg hg and has a little bit higher release rate and higher test%, 72 vs 70. I also prefer Tren over Deca unless you have to train around some joint pain and then I would front load because it has a really slow release rate and very suppressive. Keep an AI on stand by until you see you need it, thats another thing that can make you lethargic because you need circulating E2 to build muscle. For Deca and Tren you might need Caber, just watch your nips. An AI would be good PCT especially with HCG. I'm old school and prefer HCG pre-pct while the test is clearing at much higher doses for shorter periods of time, 2-3 weeks.