Thread: 20 yrs old

Lower your bodyfat first to have better effect and less chance of sides. See how far you can go naturally then when you feel stuck try out a Test only cycle with Aromasin for estro support. PCT with
Aromasin and Clomid for four weeks post cycle. I started my first cycle at 22.

Originally Posted by Eford3

Age:20
Height: 6'0"
Weight 200
Bf: 15%
Bench:255 x 5
Squat: 385 x 10
Clean: 210 x 3

Looking to do 500mg test for 10 weeks with proper nutrition and pct what am I looking at for risks. I know people say to wait but I don't think that will happen.

Originally Posted by Eford3

Thank you for the reply

stats are:
age: 20
height: 6'1
weight: 190
Bench: 235
Squat: 365
Clean: 225

Help with cycle?


Stats do not match up son.

^^^^

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

Help with cycle?


Stats do not match up son.

rofl. I made a post stating he seems like the kind of noob who would inflate his numbers, but I deleted it to avoid throwing more gas on the fire. Looks like I was right in that assumption.

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

Help with cycle?


Stats do not match up son.

That was five months ago, stats went up. Think about that? As for the height I use my phone for Internet, I made a mistake by hitting the wrong number. Thanks for the concern though

Four months ago. Seems math and numbers are a weak point for you.

Originally Posted by Eford3

That was five months ago, stats went up. Think about that? As for the height I use my phone for Internet, I made a mistake by hitting the wrong number. Thanks for the concern though

So in 4 months ( it's 4 not 5) you shrunk an inch, went from squatting 365 once to squatting 385x10 ( a 513 estimated max) , went from a 235 bench for one rep to 255x5 ( an estimated 287 max).

tell me how do you gain 148lbs on your squat and gain 52lbs on your bench natty in 4 months?



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Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

So in 4 months ( it's 4 not 5) you shrunk an inch, went from squatting 365 once to squatting 385x10 ( a 513 estimated max) , went from a 235 bench for one rep to 255x5 ( an estimated 287 max).

tell me how do you gain 148lbs on your squat and gain 52lbs on your bench natty in 4 months?



One Rep Max Calculator

Like I said in my last post I use my phone for Internet and mess up typing sometimes. I meant to put 385 x 1. Why would I lie about my size and strength to someone I will never in my life see or talk to. I have better things to do with my time and the point of my thread was to see what people thought on aas at age 20. So let me clarify again I am not lying about my size. I started benching for the first time this year due to being a pitcher I did not want to risk shoulder injury so I had a lot of room for improvement

You got caught in a lie, be a man about it....not a boy.

Originally Posted by Jt123

Everybody's opinion changed as soon as "heavy" chimed in?. although i do agree with him on this i think anything heavy says will change everybodies mind almost instantly..

No its just all the people who started earlier too started to chime in because they felt it was ok to talk now since they didn't have to be "That Guy who had to be the first saying they started earlier"

Originally Posted by djlance

Even at that, you still have to have the maturity, determination and strict discipline to follow a program that includes proper diet, training and sleep.

This is a major downfall for all the "young guns" who think they can cycle because they can draw up 1-2cc of test and do biceps curls while still going out every weekend and drinking their liver to failure.

Have to say this is true. Im 20 started my cycle when I was 19 and was 20 years old 2 weeks in. But the point is that he is correct. When I was on cycle I did proper diet, lacked in sleep and training was on point but not the best. I got decent results but know they could have been better. As stated above the dicipline is what failed me the most. have to agree with that statement because trying to limit drinking in college is next to impossible, diet can lack at times because of the abundance of food and everybody knows college students never get any sleep. seeing how your first cycle goes makes you definately think about how you want the next turn out to be and you realize its all in your input. I feel this is something that cant be described but only learned through experience. im in pct right now and almost couldn't deal with the strength loss and minor size loss. I forgot what it felt like to be natural and it honestly was not a great feeling. but also what alot of you older guys dont quite understand is that we younger guys have to learned this thru trial and error. you guys were us once too so you know how that hard headedness can be sometimes.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

Same Here.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

No, that was in 1988. Never heard of AI's back then. I used no ancillaries at all.

how did everyone not get gyno then on a gram of test

wow holy test batman

Meh, back in the late 90's when I was late teens early 20's we abused the hell out of AAS. Being overseas where it's legal, and the language barrier and you pretty much just pumped in whatever the pharmacist gave you, based upon cc's, NOT mg's or any sort of set cycle. NO ICT, no PCT noone had even heard of clomid or anything else, hell don't even know if it was developed yet in 98 lol.

Now 32 and finishing my second cycle this year, and already planning the spring cycle. No adverse effects that I can tell from my younger days of abuse.

NOW all that being said I am in no way advocating anything, just giving my personal experience. AAS use has come a long way over the years. For the better at that.

Originally Posted by USMC

Meh, back in the late 90's when I was late teens early 20's we abused the hell out of AAS. Being overseas where it's legal, and the language barrier and you pretty much just pumped in whatever the pharmacist gave you, based upon cc's, NOT mg's or any sort of set cycle. NO ICT, no PCT noone had even heard of clomid or anything else, hell don't even know if it was developed yet in 98 lol.

Now 32 and finishing my second cycle this year, and already planning the spring cycle. No adverse effects that I can tell from my younger days of abuse.

NOW all that being said I am in no way advocating anything, just giving my personal experience. AAS use has come a long way over the years. For the better at that.

That's crazy. Glad you didn't have any issues man

i ran 500mg test e for 10 weeks at age 20. Tho my PCT was good, my diet was absolute shit. I ate like a horse and gained 50 lbs. kept maybe 12-15 lbs of muscle, the rest was water (no AI on cycle) and fat. But my bench went from 185 to 300+ lol. I wouldnt recommend doing it unless you are knowledgable and have all your ducks in order (AI/PCT/diet/training all in check). I wish I had done it properly and had not been so immature/so quick to want results. Just think about it before jumping the gun.