Thread: 20 yrs old

You've been around this board for a few months and you still havent learned?!?!?!

NOBODY WILL GIVE YOU ADVICE ON A CYCLE AT YOUR AGE.

Yep you are too young, and your also gonna get for not reading all of the the stickies, be prepared to get a bitchin. Yes this forum is to educate folks and help them out, but they don't like it when fuckers are too damn lazy to do alittle research by themselves...........be prepared and don't wear your feelings on your shirt sleeve or you'll get it worse!

As long as you been here, you should know better to even ask this shit & be one that warns others ur age for thinkin' this.

oh boy...

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

I think most people hide behind the I don't want you to screw up your endocrine system thing but I often wonder how legitimate their "concern" is. Sometimes i think steroid users just like to tell 20-22 yr olds they are not ready just to say it. We can all agree teenagers shouldn't run a cycle but someone in their early 20s...I think it's ok with proper knowledge

The only way to tell is by blood work to determine the test and hormone loves. It's probably based on a anatomical development that has been in text books for years.

Originally Posted by Dolfan84

I think most people hide behind the I don't want you to screw up your endocrine system thing but I often wonder how legitimate their "concern" is. Sometimes i think steroid users just like to tell 20-22 yr olds they are not ready just to say it. We can all agree teenagers shouldn't run a cycle but someone in their early 20s...I think it's ok with proper knowledge

A few years back I was reading a study on Testosterone Dose relationships and it was interesting to see the scientists felt it was ethical to administer Testosterone to 18 year olds in the study for 20 weeks. However there are risks. I just have zero regrets myself.

The first question that needs to be asked before he gets shouted at for being 20 years old is, what are your goals? if you are looking to compete in the future and have been training 4-5 years with VERY good knowledge about nutrition, training and steroids then maybe 20 years old isn't to young. i'm 20 myself been training seriously 3-4 years and been researching steroids for 1 and half years. i am very serious about the sport and i have my training and diet checked in. but i am not looking to compete, although i want to become a freak, just like 'heavyiron' whos an inspiration, but i still feel that i have more to learn before turning to the dark side... remember Diet and training are the most important factors and you only ever get 1 first cycle... all the best though buddy!

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

And look at your now... Your.... Well a f-ing animal. If I remember correctly, your on TRT right? I have no idea of your age or when you started TRT but do you feel that starting steroids young resulted in you needing to be on TRT? I figure most of us who use cycles often will have to be on TRT sooner or later.

Originally Posted by GymRat4Life

And look at your now... Your.... Well a f-ing animal. If I remember correctly, your on TRT right? I have no idea of your age or when you started TRT but do you feel that starting steroids young resulted in you needing to be on TRT? I figure most of us who use cycles often will have to be on TRT sooner or later.

I have been on TRT 5 years. I'm in my mid forties. Age has a lot to do with declining T levels but previous steroid use may be a factor. I used zero steroids 8 years previous to going on TRT though.

I started at 22 and I'm kickass. But the difference between 20 and 22 is big.

i started at 13 if arlmord can do it so can i

I think it also depends on your physical development. I know guys at 21 who haven't matured physically yet and I know some at 18 who were physically matured.

Fuck it, he's not going to listen. If you're too lazy to read that tells me all I need to know.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

What was you first cycle?

Everybody's opinion changed as soon as "heavy" chimed in?. although i do agree with him on this i think anything heavy says will change everybodies mind almost instantly..

My view hasn't changed. The only way that one will truly know is by having scans done to check for proper epiphyseal closure and also having your hormone levels checked. Even at that, you still have to have the maturity, determination and strict discipline to follow a program that includes proper diet, training and sleep.

This is a major downfall for all the "young guns" who think they can cycle because they can draw up 1-2cc of test and do biceps curls while still going out every weekend and drinking their liver to failure.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

A few years back I was reading a study on Testosterone Dose relationships and it was interesting to see the scientists felt it was ethical to administer Testosterone to 18 year olds in the study for 20 weeks. However there are risks. I just have zero regrets myself.

I'm 38 now, but ran my first dbol only cycle at 17 years of age during my junior track season and I crushed every presonal best I had previously set. I've had no ill side effects and no regrets. HOWEVER - I do not condone and or recommend that any teenager consider the use of AAS.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

My first cycle was at 20 years old. Loved it and had no problems.

Mine was at 18. Steroid use at age 18 is fine read some steroid books they'll tell you that, but its not recommended, ill tell you first hand why. #1 At age 18 your life is too spontaneous very few 18 year olds have a full time job and a proper diet, and training. When i was 18 i was working pizza delivery 11-4 and 4-10 alternate days. You go out getting fucked up you wake up for work get home from work, don't go to the gym. Basically what I am trying to say is yes its safe to do if done properly and if you have done your research, but unless you have the dedication and have a fixed schedule 5 days a week it becomes very hard to do

Originally Posted by Eford3

What was you first cycle?

Stats

I was 20 years old and had trained a few years off and on. I weighed a little over 200lbs. I never used any steroids previously. I did high volume, high intensity training.

My first cycle

All doses are approximate as I injected every 3 days the entire cycle.

Week 1 400mg Test C
Week 2 600mg Test C
Week 3 800mg Test C
Week 4 1 gram Test C
Week 5 1,200mg Test C
Week 6 1,400mg Test C
Week 7 1,600mg Test C
Week 8 1,600mg Test C

No PCT. LOL!

I loved my first cycle. I had zero problems and gained huge. I lost little to no strength afterwards but did drop about 10lbs in the next 2 months.

8 weeks off and then I jumped back on again and ran something similar. =)

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Stats

I was 20 years old and had trained a few years off and on. I weighed a little over 200lbs. I never used any steroids previously. I did high volume, high intensity training.

My first cycle

All doses are approximate as I injected every 3 days the entire cycle.

Week 1 400mg Test C
Week 2 600mg Test C
Week 3 800mg Test C
Week 4 1 gram Test C
Week 5 1,200mg Test C
Week 6 1,400mg Test C
Week 7 1,600mg Test C
Week 8 1,600mg Test C

No PCT. LOL!

I loved my first cycle. I had zero problems and gained huge. I lost little to no strength afterwards but did drop about 10lbs in the next 2 months.

8 weeks off and then I jumped back on again and ran something similar. =)

Holy shit! Hahahaha. You're the shit, heavy.

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I think it just depends on what your cycling at that age. I did my first at age 21 with poor advice from a gym rat, ended up running tren enanthate with test enanthate for 10 weeks. Yeah i got great results, but got a little gyno which i eventually cleared up a year later once i discovered letro. If i could do it all over again..would I? Yes, however i would have ran Test 500mg-750mg weekly for 10-12 weeks. If your cycling just to get bigger, and dont plan on doing it again i wouldnt recomend trying gear. I have been obsessed mentally with lifting since i was 15 years old and have never lost the desire to get bigger. Some people just run a cycle to get big for the summer then lose interest in the gym shortly after

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Stats

I was 20 years old and had trained a few years off and on. I weighed a little over 200lbs. I never used any steroids previously. I did high volume, high intensity training.

My first cycle

All doses are approximate as I injected every 3 days the entire cycle.

Week 1 400mg Test C
Week 2 600mg Test C
Week 3 800mg Test C
Week 4 1 gram Test C
Week 5 1,200mg Test C
Week 6 1,400mg Test C
Week 7 1,600mg Test C
Week 8 1,600mg Test C

No PCT. LOL!

I loved my first cycle. I had zero problems and gained huge. I lost little to no strength afterwards but did drop about 10lbs in the next 2 months.

8 weeks off and then I jumped back on again and ran something similar. =)

Wow, thats a fat cycle.

My first cycle I was 21, took 250mgs of test a week for 12 weeks with an oral kickstart. I had the worst diet but training was dialed because my friend knew what he was doing. I gained 15lbs.

wow my first cycle I was 17 turning 18 little immature and was doing something like this

week 1-4 500 test e, 50mg Dbol kickstart
week 5-8 1000 test e + 400 EQ
week 9-12 1500 test e + 400 EQ
week 13-16 750 test e + 400 EQ
week 17-21 Nolva

Now I no better to never do this again gram and a half of test is quite a bit but I am fine and I am almost 21 now. For me 750 test e/week is the sweet spot for sides:gains

Please understand I'm not advocating what I did for my first cycle but I have no regrets. I was over 6 feet tall so fused growth plates were of zero concern to me. However my threshold for risk may be higher than others.

Originally Posted by Eford3

Age:20
Height: 6'0"
Weight 200
Bf: 15%
Bench:255 x 5
Squat: 385 x 10
Clean: 210 x 3

Looking to do 500mg test for 10 weeks with proper nutrition and pct what am I looking at for risks. I know people say to wait but I don't think that will happen.

What's you Diet? ya...thats right..what are you eating

What's your lifting reg like?

Are you max'd naturally?

Do you fully understand PCT protocol and on cycle support?

Did you vote for obama.. lol.?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I started at 22 and I'm kickass. But the difference between 20 and 22 is big.

This is what I wanted to do. I think the thing is that when other people around are starting up and making big gains.. without a good knowledge of what they're actually doing, it makes it more and more tempting. Well, this is true in my case and I'm 19