Thread: Seeing an Endocrinologist for low Test levels

That's kind of low for your age, but not according to the American Medical Association. Furthermore a doctor will not put you on TRT at your age.

Trust me when I say this; don't fuck with your testosterone levels if you are having this problem at your age. Spend your efforts maximizing your nutrition and workout plan. Request a Vitamin D test and supplement to get you to the top end of the range. Take Omega 3 fish oil. Get your natural production back on track while you still can, you'll thank yourself down the road.

Good luck.

yes it's a little low for your age but not clinicly low. You will not qualify for trt at this point nor should you try to force the issue to get on trt by trying to manipulate your test levels. Why not try to get at the real root of the problem? You will feel much better in the LONG RUN and be much happier. When you say you have 4 years under your belt did you mean on gear ? I pray not. there are quite a few posts from younger bro's who are screwing themselves up by using AAS too early ! Think long term my friend at 21 you are just at the start of a long life. good luck.

It's so bad that she thought I might be gay

what a conceited bitch.

Originally Posted by l69lou

yes it's a little low for your age but not clinicly low. You will not qualify for trt at this point nor should you try to force the issue to get on trt by trying to manipulate your test levels. Why not try to get at the real root of the problem? You will feel much better in the LONG RUN and be much happier. When you say you have 4 years under your belt did you mean on gear ? I pray not. there are quite a few posts from younger bro's who are screwing themselves up by using AAS too early ! Think long term my friend at 21 you are just at the start of a long life. good luck.

4 years of serious training with zero gear or ph's. I'd say my workout routine and diet are pretty on target. Hi volume, hi intensity.

And I hate to say this but I already focus my diet and exercise plans to maximize my testosterone production. I'm take omega's, healthy fats, etc..


Thank you guys for the helpful replies. I'd be curious if some of you could expand on how to get test levels back to where they should be naturally. I'm not sure if you meant it, but you made it out like there are things I can do to increase my production for the foreseeable future.

Also, I'm not really sure about the negative, long term effects of trt. I've read some recent studies that have proven that it is not a cause of prostate cancer.


Thanks again guys,
JIm

Originally Posted by SFW

what a conceited bitch.

I'm just wondering if she was hot or not

Originally Posted by Crunk

4 years of serious training with zero gear or ph's. I'd say my workout routine and diet are pretty on target. Hi volume, hi intensity.

And I hate to say this but I already focus my diet and exercise plans to maximize my testosterone production. I'm take omega's, healthy fats, etc..


Thank you guys for the helpful replies. I'd be curious if some of you could expand on how to get test levels back to where they should be naturally. I'm not sure if you meant it, but you made it out like there are things I can do to increase my production for the foreseeable future.

Also, I'm not really sure about the negative, long term effects of trt. I've read some recent studies that have proven that it is not a cause of prostate cancer.


Thanks again guys,
JIm

What are your vit d levels? Do you actively avoid plastics, chlorine, fluoride, and high glucose foods?

Originally Posted by TonyMack

That's kind of low for your age, but not according to the American Medical Association. Furthermore a doctor will not put you on TRT at your age.

Trust me when I say this; don't fuck with your testosterone levels if you are having this problem at your age. Spend your efforts maximizing your nutrition and workout plan. Request a Vitamin D test and supplement to get you to the top end of the range. Take Omega 3 fish oil. Get your natural production back on track while you still can, you'll thank yourself down the road.

Good luck.

What this guy said. Get your vitamin D tested and supplement if you're not at the top end of the range. Avoid plastic products, canned foods. Make sure you're sleeping at least 8 hours a night. Your level is middle-low for your age, but not low low

Originally Posted by TonyMack

What are your vit d levels? Do you actively avoid plastics, chlorine, fluoride, and high glucose foods?

I haven't gotten that tested. I get 9 hours consistently and haven't eaten anything canned in over 2 months. I don't eat sugary foods ever. I stick to lean meat, vegetables, and whole wheat pasta and breads. I'm not so sure about chlorine and fluoride. I mean, I brush my teeth with regular toothpaste but not sure if that has a significant effect.

The test I got was the one you could order through privatemdlabs and have the blood drawn at labcorp. I just got the standard one.

444 ng/dL is not low test, it might be on the lower end, but not low enough for trt

No endo will put you on trt since they are within range unless the endo is very, very liberal, but I highly doubt it...

In any case, good luck dog!

Originally Posted by bulldogz

444 ng/dL is not low test, it might be on the lower end, but not low enough for trt

No endo will put you on trt since they are within range unless the endo is very, very liberal, but I highly doubt it...

In any case, good luck dog!

You are probably right. I'd like to find a very liberal one. I don't know anyone who has a legal prescription or I'd ask for their endo.

I know my normal t production is lower than this if I were to become "normal" but I'm addicted to the gym.


I just hate not seeing results an having zero sex drive. What would you guys think about doing something like andromass

Dont do anything until you see a qualified doctor.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

Dont do anything until you see a qualified doctor.

^^this...

Agreed. What do you guys think about being honest with the endo and telling them upfront when they say they won't prescribe me anything that I will probably venture into PH's and possibly trt. Would that help or just reaffirm their decision in not giving me any?

Originally Posted by Crunk

Agreed. What do you guys think about being honest with the endo and telling them upfront when they say they won't prescribe me anything that I will probably venture into PH's and possibly trt. Would that help or just reaffirm their decision in not giving me any?

That probably won't help. Also make sure you're eating enough fats, your diet could be too healthy. Saturated fats and cholesterol are needed for testosterone production. Get that vit D checked!

Originally Posted by squigader

That probably won't help. Also make sure you're eating enough fats, your diet could be too healthy. Saturated fats and cholesterol are needed for testosterone production. Get that vit D checked!

True, true. I eat cereal once in a while and have some unhealthy foods, just not a lot of them and always in moderation. I'm not sure what it will do, but I'll get it checked. If it's exorbently expensive, I'll just wait for the endocrinonologist because insurance will pay for it.

Not sure if this matters about vitamin D levels, but I take a generic vitamin horse pill every day.

Thanks for all of your help guys an big moe

Originally Posted by Crunk

Levels on 11/31/2011:
Test 444 ng/dL
LH 4.6 mIU/mL
FSH 3.1 mIU/mL
Estradiol 23.6 pg/mL

WBC 5.4
RBC 5.11

Got tested on 4/13/2012

Levels:
Test 525 ng/dL
LH 5.0 mIU/mL
FSH 3.0 mIU/mL
Estradiol 26.0 pg/mL

WBC 5.5
RBC 5.55

This is after doing a standard hdrol cycle, killer pct. The tests were done months after pct. I just got them done before next cycle

Anyone know why my FSH levels are so low or how I can raise them? Also my estrogen levels went up

Are you doing all PH's?

Why not do cycles with Real test base?