Thread: H-Drol Cycle for a 1st timer

Post up some stats like age, height/weight, bf%, diet and training, cycle goals.

If you post those it will be much easier to help you.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Post up some stats like age, height/weight, bf%, diet and training, cycle goals.

If you post those it will be much easier to help you.

No problem
Age: 21
Height: 5'6
Weight: 145
Bf: 11-12%
Diet: 3500-4500 calories on build days, 2500-3500 on rest days. At least 200 grams of protein.
Training: extremely intense, 2 hours. 5-6 days on with 1-2 days off. One major body part per day with an auxillary muscle. Example: Back and tri's. Chest and bi's. Shoulder's and calfs. Legs and traps (traps need work). I'm not bragging at all, but I keep up with guys who weigh in a lot more than me (165-180) and are pretty lean.
Experience: I've trained 5 days a week for over 1.5 hours a day for the 5 out of 6 years. All natural. It wasn't until 2 years ago that I really started to take it ultra serious to the point where I'm buying bulk BCAA's and whey
Cycle Goals: I'd like to hit 160 by the end of PCT but will still be happy with 155

If a photo would help, I can make that happen.

Are you against injectables? Imo, a good first cycle as outlined in the stickies would work great for you.

Edit* I realized you're pretty young. Most guys here would tell you to train naturally for a couple more years before touching aas/pro hormones.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Are you against injectables? Imo, a good first cycle as outlined in the stickies would work great for you.

I've read it completely. I'd like to not touch an injectable until I get bigger. I'll re-evaluate at 175 lbs and look at where my levels are at.

I also had blood work done (the $50 one through privatemdlabs) if that helps at all.

Just ordered 2 bottles of Helladrol, the novla, and 2 bottles of SNS Liver XT

Originally Posted by Crunk

I've read it completely. I'd like to not touch an injectable until I get bigger. I'll re-evaluate at 175 lbs and look at where my levels are at.

I also had blood work done (the $50 one through privatemdlabs) if that helps at all.

if you post your blood work results, that would be helpful as well.

You're a little young to start aas, pretty much everyone would say to train naturally for 2-3 years and they would be right.

No offense meant but you're a shorter guy and you should have no trouble making gains with good training and diet. Have you maximized your training and diet? Probably not.

If your gains are stalling, try changing up your training. There are a lot of programs that help when you stall, one of them for example would be german volume training and there are plenty of other ones.

Just giving you some things to think about.

Originally Posted by Crunk

Just ordered 2 bottles of Helladrol, the novla, and 2 bottles of SNS Liver XT

I hope you're not referring to Gaspari Novedex XT...

Originally Posted by Vibrant

if you post your blood work results, that would be helpful as well.

You're a little young to start aas, pretty much everyone would say to train naturally for 2-3 years and they would be right.

No offense meant but you're a shorter guy and you should have no trouble making gains with good training and diet. Have you maximized your training and diet? Probably not.

If your gains are stalling, try changing up your training. There are a lot of programs that help when you stall, one of them for example would be german volume training and there are plenty of other ones.

Just giving you some things to think about.

I've trained for over 3 years naturally. And I am fairly confident that I've got my training and diet dialed in.

It really boils down to my test being in the 440's. Estradiol was about 23

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

I hope you're not referring to Gaspari Novedex XT...

It's actually Nolvadex by Zeneca. Ordered it from a sponsor that is running a 50% off promotion today. Haven't actually paid for it, so if you have other recommendations, I'd be happy to hear them

Originally Posted by Crunk

I also have 1 bottle of each of these: Anabeta, Erase, and Slin Sane but am not sure if I should run any of those here.

Still wondering this. Also I'm a bit sketched out my my nolva source. I may want to replace it with something else. Open to recommendations


THanks guys

Have you thought about adding a 1/4-1/2 cup of raw oats to your shake or morning meal? It'll help with your cholesterol and insulin level sensitivity. If you did that everyday for 60days it may help. Shit I do eat it everyday. Also you might want to up the fish oil to 8-10 caps.